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colive10 02-21-2021 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3197496)
Fair enough, but that diversification only goes as far as the health of the lessee. I doubt JO would even lease the acft. to GJ except that United is guaranteeing the payments. OO already cut them off because they couldn't pay. I don't know the history of OO leasing airframes but I would guess they do it because they got stuck with acft. they owned but couldn't place just like Mesa. I doubt it was a deliberate business decision but will stand corrected if they went out and bought aircraft for the purpose of leasing them out.

Remember Mesa is the only passenger airline in the US that made a full year profit in 2020. All quarters. Why would JO want to take on the counter party risk of a lease when he has shown that he can operate those airframes at a profit? I repeat, he specifically said in a conference call that he wanted to operate those airframes as 550s for United but that if that didn't work out he would lease or park them. That doesn't sound like a man wanting to get into the leasing business. Would he turn down the money? Of course not, but that doesn't mean it is plan A.

If you gathered all the factually correct statements on APC ever, it would take up less than a page. Add this to the background noise.

Seneca Pilot 02-21-2021 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by colive10 (Post 3197735)
If you gathered all the factually correct statements on APC ever, it would take up less than a page. Add this to the background noise.


Please enlighten us with the facts then.

pangolin 02-22-2021 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3197797)
Please enlighten us with the facts then.

737s are coming to Mesa.

Seneca Pilot 02-22-2021 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3198077)
737s are coming to Mesa.


Never!!!!! Why would they do that when they could just skip the headaches and lease them out to a competitor?

PreciousCargo 02-22-2021 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3198117)
Never!!!!! Why would they do that when they could just skip the headaches and lease them out to a competitor?

dude i think he's just trolling you.:D

pangolin 02-23-2021 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by PreciousCargo (Post 3198374)
dude i think he's just trolling you.:D

His response was correct in this situation. You missed the humor. I respect his opinion. He’s actually convinced me. I think the difference though on the 700s is the cost of conversion to 550. If JO can get someone else to pay it then get the planes back to operate them, he will.

prt135 03-02-2021 04:12 PM

GoJet is hiring apparently. Are all furloughees back on property? How many are they hiring?

moonraker9 03-02-2021 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by prt135 (Post 3201755)
GoJet is hiring apparently. Are all furloughees back on property? How many are they hiring?

Don't see that on their site, are CJO holders being called for class?

prt135 03-02-2021 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by moonraker9 (Post 3201776)
Don't see that on their site, are CJO holders being called for class?

They posted that they’re hiring on their official Facebook page

ShooterMcGavin 03-02-2021 05:18 PM

Someone should ask during the next employee call if Holdings ever plans on actually paying out the Compass/ALPA settlement.


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