GoJet Growth
#11
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You had me until you got to the part about UA caring about passenger experience.
Making the customer experience as unfavorable as possible is basically the motto at UA. It's how they differentiate themselves from the competition. From the rampers to the agents to the overbooking to the crappy seats to the choice of most miserable planes with the most miserable interior configuration to the penny pinching with the apu to the snack/food options, UA is a legacy airline with a legacy route structure, and legacy overhead with the passenger experience of a startup ulcc.
UA: "you hate us, but you'll be back. either because we're the only option for your route or because you are a cheap sucker that can't resist taking the the 3% cheaper option"
Making the customer experience as unfavorable as possible is basically the motto at UA. It's how they differentiate themselves from the competition. From the rampers to the agents to the overbooking to the crappy seats to the choice of most miserable planes with the most miserable interior configuration to the penny pinching with the apu to the snack/food options, UA is a legacy airline with a legacy route structure, and legacy overhead with the passenger experience of a startup ulcc.
UA: "you hate us, but you'll be back. either because we're the only option for your route or because you are a cheap sucker that can't resist taking the the 3% cheaper option"
#12
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Gojet is staying alive with the help of United and Skywest and the prospect of government pandemic money coming through. That money is basically pledged as collateral along with the planes. Assuming the money comes through there will be some maneuvering to get away from the money going to keep people employed and move it over to paying bills and transferring assets. In the end there will be a deal agreed to by everyone for the money to pay the bills, assets that were collateral transferred, and a number of employees going with the planes. I've been a part of 3 of these types of deals in the past. The first time almost 1000 pilots went with the planes, The next 2 were merely the guaranteed interviews. "The deal was not optimal and was not what anyone wanted, but given the economic constraints we all faced this deal provided the best opportunity going forward for all. XXX airline has committed to interviewing all Gojet employees over the next 24 month and to hire a minimum of YYY of those interviewed provided XXXX continues to hire. Everyone will have a chance with this agreement." Then there will be a line added, "The payment of ZZ million to HK and 75k per month until an update future date for his helping with the transition of assets is a standard in the Airline industry for this type of transitions. The US government gas agreed to the structuring of this deal even though the money was originally given to keep employees employed."
#13
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So.......... were you turned down after an interview, or did you work for a regional that United cut their ties with? I’ve flown all over the world on every legacy airline we have, and based on my experience, United is just another big US airline. It’s no better or worse than American or Delta. Compared to riding on Emirates though, all of our airlines stink.
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I was replying to someone who was saying that United doesn’t care about the customer experience and how bad the product is. What pilots think about it wasn’t the issue. But to clear up your statement... yes, flying international and domestic are like two different airlines at every company. The QOL of a 777 pilot at any of the legacies will be about the same as the others. When comparing the product, the big three are about the same. When comparing being a pilot on similar equipment, again, about the same.
#17
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I was replying to someone who was saying that United doesn’t care about the customer experience and how bad the product is. What pilots think about it wasn’t the issue. But to clear up your statement... yes, flying international and domestic are like two different airlines at every company. The QOL of a 777 pilot at any of the legacies will be about the same as the others. When comparing the product, the big three are about the same. When comparing being a pilot on similar equipment, again, about the same.
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They all stink, but since Delta has gotten rid of the bulk of their 50 seat jets and brought on the A220, I’d say that they have the best flavor crap of the big 3. United had the same opportunity to bring on another NB fleet type and free up approximately 70 more big rj’s, but unlike Delta, they chose not to exercise that option. Kirby said that the 50 seaters would most likely be a thing of the past after all of this, but I fully expect more of the same. He’d love to have what Delta does, but he’s not willing to do what they did to get it.
#19
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They all stink, but since Delta has gotten rid of the bulk of their 50 seat jets and brought on the A220, I’d say that they have the best flavor crap of the big 3. United had the same opportunity to bring on another NB fleet type and free up approximately 70 more big rj’s, but unlike Delta, they chose not to exercise that option. Kirby said that the 50 seaters would most likely be a thing of the past after all of this, but I fully expect more of the same. He’d love to have what Delta does, but he’s not willing to do what they did to get it.
#20
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That’s where the basic economy/economy plus seating came from. Part of coach is what it always was and now called economy plus, and the back is called basic economy with tight seating and a lower price to compete with the LCC’s.
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