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outofwork 05-30-2009 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 619570)
As I've stated before, HE should take HIS job back, for 100% of HIS pay at HIS airline... When mainline comes to take everything with a jet engine back, I'll be happy to see it go. Until then, he should probably avoid prolonging his own furlough, don't you think?

I don't think his working for gojet is going to prolong his furlough, and I also do not think mainline will be taking that flying back as long as they can move it to a regional carrier for less money, which is the current epidemic everywhere...I have seen my flying a CMR moved to every conceivable regional...

Purpleanga 05-30-2009 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by outofwork (Post 619582)
I don't think his working for gojet is going to prolong his furlough, and I also do not think mainline will be taking that flying back as long as they can move it to a regional carrier for less money, which is the current epidemic everywhere...I have seen my flying a CMR moved to every conceivable regional...

I agree with you. The GJ CRJ7s are going to be there anyways. This GJ thing is very old, furloughed UA pilots are going there and they even have an agreement. TSA has to figure out how to solve their problems. Did they start the strike authorization voting?

Foxcow 05-30-2009 11:16 AM

The strike authorization vote closes on June 10th. I hope everyone is voting.

X Rated 05-30-2009 11:29 AM

What the Eagle MEC fails to mention is that, most likely, of all the carriers where anyone is longing for an upgrade--it's Eagle. Aside from UAL furloughees, Eagle furloughees--for that matter, long standing Eagle F/O's--would probably have a faster career progression at GoJet.

They also fail to mention that the TSA MEC should have captured the flying at GoJet prior to pounding their chests about pay for the -700.

On a closing note, didn't ALPA National make a recommendation for ALPA members to consider GoJet if they needed a job?

X

seven6 05-30-2009 12:43 PM

I have tremendous respect for the Eagle pilots as well as there fellow American APA members because of messages like this. They don't screw around and say it the way it is without the fear of getting sued. If only every MEC was like this, this industry would be a little different.

20sx 05-30-2009 12:58 PM

Out of curiosity, does ALPA recommend to all ALPA carriers (i.e. Majors) to not hire Gojet pilots. Maybe it wouldn't be seen as a stepping stone if there were little places to go afterword. From the past, the majors hired everyone no matter where they came from...so why wouldn't someone want to go someplace like Gojets if there was no negative to it?

btwissel 05-30-2009 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by boilerpilot (Post 619569)
737s only carry 66 people now? Last I checked, the CRJ-700 and the "Guppy" or the "Guppy killer" have very different seating capacities. The "Guppy Killer" is the 190/95 which are both 100+. The 175 only caries 76 seats (looks similar but has half the capacity of the 737) and the 170 only caries 66 seats (all of those numbers are including first class seats).

almost. while the crj-700 the pax limit is 66 (70 with all coach as ASA flies em) the ERJ-170 seats 70 with 1st class, 76 without. as RAH and Compass have them, the 175's seat 76 with first, 86 without.

the 190/195 aren't guppy-killers, they're direct competition for the smaller 73s. the -500s carry ~112. the 190 can carry that, but it's all coach. the 195s are closer.

mwa1 05-30-2009 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by X Rated (Post 619626)
What the Eagle MEC fails to mention is that, most likely, of all the carriers where anyone is longing for an upgrade--it's Eagle. Aside from UAL furloughees, Eagle furloughees--for that matter, long standing Eagle F/O's--would probably have a faster career progression at GoJet.

They also fail to mention that the TSA MEC should have captured the flying at GoJet prior to pounding their chests about pay for the -700.

On a closing note, didn't ALPA National make a recommendation for ALPA members to consider GoJet if they needed a job?

X

#1 what does that have to do with the tea in China?
#2 it's called negotiation - it comes with risks
#3 if so I think it was for the furloughed TSA pilots not the flying community at large. I could be wrong about that but the object was to make them whole later.

fjetter 05-30-2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by 20sx (Post 619667)
Out of curiosity, does ALPA recommend to all ALPA carriers (i.e. Majors) to not hire Gojet pilots. Maybe it wouldn't be seen as a stepping stone if there were little places to go afterword. From the past, the majors hired everyone no matter where they came from...so why wouldn't someone want to go someplace like Gojets if there was no negative to it?

ALPA has little hand if any in hiring at Majors.

X Rated 05-30-2009 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by mwa1 (Post 619691)
#1 what does that have to do with the tea in China?
#2 it's called negotiation - it comes with risks
#3 if so I think it was for the furloughed TSA pilots not the flying community at large. I could be wrong about that but the object was to make them whole later.

#1--How many Eagle guys have left for GoJet?
#2--Yes, it comes with risks. The TSA MEC tried to bluff and lost to a pair of two's.
#3--I vaguely remember that the ATA guys were referred to GoJet for employment by ALPA National.

X


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