izanti

I have looked through many forums and cannot find any RECENT information on this.

According to WFFF GoJet pay scales for a 1st year FO are $1/hour more than Mesa and are the exact same as ASA. That seems pretty fair to me. Im am just curious if GoJet is still the career killer it has said to be by some people and if it is still possible to be "listed" like in the past?

GoJet GoJet Pilot Pay Rates
ASA- ASA Pilot Pay Rates
Mesa- Mesa Airlines Pilot Pay Rates

Im not trying to start anything here I am honestly looking for some info for my own sake. All of the past posts I have looked at are from years ago and dont seem relevant anymore. Thanks

dosbo

Why don't you compare Go Jet rates with AWAC (50 seat only), Horizon, and Comair. Don't forget to factor in soft time for MX, WX, Perdiem, Etc...

The reason Go Jet is growing is because they are cheaper than any one else, otherwise know as the lowest bidder. What do you think allows them to bid lower than everyone else?

todd1200

Also look past first year pay. A second year FO at ASA makes more than a 15 year FO at GoJet.

izanti

Well for one Comair C700 1st year Fo's are at 22.65/hour while GJ is at $23.00. You got me on Horizon but my two other examples were also CRJ-700 aircraft and the pay was the same and one was even less.

Is it that they have all lowered their pay to match GJ's?
Also, are dispatchers at GJ treated the same as the pilots when it comes to jump seating on other airlines and so on?

izanti

Ok good call on the second year pay at ASA compared to GJ's 15 years lol. I see it now

dosbo

First off AWAC is for 50 seat rates, that is 20 fewer seats for similar rates.

Second what is difficult to measure is the soft time which can't be taken directly off of payscales.

flyandive

Remember GoJet was labeled a "career killer" because of their tainted past, not necessarily their payscale.

izanti

Would you say it is also a cereer killer for dispatchers?

rickair7777

The answers to your questions have more to do with the history of the gojet pilot group and the deliberate decision that each pilot made to serve an alter-ego airline at the expense of the TSA pilot group. There are many pilots who hold a grudge against gojet and one of those might be in a position to torpedo your career later on.

If you lack a certain sense of ethics, you might be gojet material, but you still have to decide whether it's worth the career risk down the road. Nobody can tell you exactly what that risk is. Also as industry pariahs, gojetters walk around with their company badges turned around to hide their identity in shame at the airport...kind of shows what they are really made of. They also congregate in unused gate areas during their breaks because they are not welcome in the official crew lounges, doesn't sound like fun to me...here you are an airline pilot but you can't hold your head high.

Also, payscales are only half the story...equally important are the work rules which determine WHEN you get paid. Regional pilots don't get paid just because they happen to be at work, or even when they are working. I don't know what the GJ work rules are but I imagine they are not too good.

flyandive

Considering that even labeling GoJet a "career killer" is debatable than I would also say that it would be debatable to apply the term to dispatchers as well.

As much as the name GoJet, or even hearing "Lindbergh" on center freq. makes me twitch and the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, I think one could easily argue that by even working for a regional, any regional, we are encouraging airlines to pay poverty level wages and are thereby bringing our beloved profession to a new low. Darned if you do, darned if you don't. The point is that you are asking this question on a public forum and if you are expecting a straight answer, then you're just CRAZY!

Look in the flight training section, someone asked how an airplane flies, and an argument ensued complete with flamebait. Can you expect anything else?