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bernouli 04-21-2012 12:32 PM

GoJet CQFO's to become Captains
 
Effective May 1 - The company is making CQFO's into full time captains to avoid violating the CBA.

* I'm not sure if it's all of the CQFO's that were on property or not. The current CBA allows for 1 CQFO for every 2 aircraft on property.

jetstream11 04-21-2012 12:41 PM

CQFO????????? 10 characters...

nkm06 04-21-2012 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by jetstream11 (Post 1173385)
CQFO????????? 10 characters...

Captain Qualified First Officer. They say they are hiring for captains but actually if you qualify for their captain minimums, you get hired as a CQFO, not a full time captain.

I'm not 100% sure but I think they use you as a captain only when they need you and then you get captain pay but otherwise you are a first officer. Like i said not 100% sure.

goaround2000 04-21-2012 12:47 PM

I wonder why gojets is the only regional that uses this practice?
Hmmmmmm!

Tell me the end goal again of CQFO's?

bernouli 04-21-2012 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1173388)
I wonder why gojets is the only regional that uses this practice?
Hmmmmmm!

Tell me the end goal again of CQFO's?

Because they are growing faster than current staffing allowed for - there weren't enough qualified first officers to fill the positions.

sinsilvia666 04-21-2012 12:51 PM

Like being dual qualified without the dual pay !


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bernouli 04-21-2012 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by nkm06 (Post 1173386)
Captain Qualified First Officer. They say they are hiring for captains but actually if you qualify for their captain minimums, you get hired as a CQFO, not a full time captain.

I'm not 100% sure but I think they use you as a captain only when they need you and then you get captain pay but otherwise you are a first officer. Like i said not 100% sure.

CQFO pay is a blended 1st year rate. all the rest you wrote was correct.

Wingtips 04-21-2012 12:55 PM

its because no one wants to fly for gojetz, because they know its like putting a DUI on your resume.

Silver02ex 04-21-2012 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1173391)
Because they are growing faster than current staffing allowed for - there weren't enough qualified first officers to fill the positions.

What does that have anything to do with it? When everyone was growing in 2007, regionals would just hire street CA or FO that would only be FO for about a month before they can bid CA. Sounds to me like your company is trying to keep cost down, let guys fly as CA but on FO pay or blended rates. If you say they are growing so fast let them hire street CA and give them CA pay.

Diver Driver 04-21-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1173388)
I wonder why gojets is the only regional that uses this practice?
Hmmmmmm!

Tell me the end goal again of CQFO's?

Not the only one. We use CQF's, full CA pay for all assignments though.

block30 04-21-2012 01:15 PM

Hey where is that 73/75/76 or whatever his username was? He was trying to get on at Go Jetsss. Haven't heard from him in awhile.

DeadHead 04-21-2012 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1173388)
I wonder why gojets is the only regional that uses this practice?
Hmmmmmm!

Tell me the end goal again of CQFO's?

Well played sir.......Well Played!

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Silver02ex 04-21-2012 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 1173410)
Not the only one. We use CQF's, full CA pay for all assignments though.

If you use full CA pay while flying as a CA, I can understand, not this blended rates BS Gojets is doing

BrewCity 04-21-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1173388)
I wonder why gojets is the only regional that uses this practice?
Hmmmmmm!

While they don't hire for it, even the almighty Southwest has Lance Captains

johnso29 04-21-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1173388)
I wonder why gojets is the only regional that uses this practice?
Hmmmmmm!

Tell me the end goal again of CQFO's?

TranStates use to have them too.

B200 Hawk 04-21-2012 01:41 PM

Slackers...ibtl

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goaround2000 04-21-2012 02:09 PM



Originally Posted by goaround2000 (Post 1173388)
I wonder why gojets is the only regional that uses this practice?
Hmmmmmm!

While they don't hire for it, even the almighty Southwest has Lance Captains
Hence I said our segment of the industry, for the reading impaired!

Someone already answered The rhetorical question, it's done for the same reason that the alter-ego was created to begin with.

Salukipilot4590 04-21-2012 03:01 PM

I don't know about all of you fine gentlemen but I'm IN

DryMotorBoatin 04-21-2012 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1173415)
If you use full CA pay while flying as a CA, I can understand, not this blended rates BS Gojets is doing

GoJet...BS...same sentence? NO WAY!

Speaking of, don't give me that BS that its because they are growing so fast. For how long was GoJet the only regional hiring? Like 2009-2011? Not like there weren't a million pilots walkin the streets during then.


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In.

9kBud 04-21-2012 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Diver Driver (Post 1173410)
Not the only one. We use CQF's, full CA pay for all assignments though.

Cape also has CQFO's for the ATR sometimes. IBTL

bernouli 04-21-2012 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1173478)
GoJet...BS...same sentence? NO WAY!

Speaking of, don't give me that BS that its because they are growing so fast. For how long was GoJet the only regional hiring? Like 2009-2011? Not like there weren't a million pilots walkin the streets during then.


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In.

How long were you at gojet for?

MoarAlpha 04-21-2012 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1173495)
How long were you at gojet for?

For his sake hopefully never!

IBTL!!!11!1!!

GT4JB96 04-21-2012 04:37 PM

and lets see, why would they be doing that??? well my bet is that they are getting ready to make an announcement about more airplanes coming...... so they need to free up some CQFO spots for new hires.... any takers on this???

Diver Driver 04-21-2012 04:38 PM

Come on guys, civil discussion please.

DryMotorBoatin 04-21-2012 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1173495)
How long were you at gojet for?

What?.........

bernouli 04-21-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1173415)
If you use full CA pay while flying as a CA, I can understand, not this blended rates BS Gojets is doing

I think that is how they get paid. CA pay for trips flown in the left seat, and the blended rate for right seat legs.

I'm not positive though.

bernouli 04-21-2012 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1173513)
What?.........

For some reason I thought you may have began training at gojet and left shortly into it. I must have you confused with somebody else.

I apologize if it was inaccurate.

ERJF15 04-21-2012 06:17 PM

I have no dog in this fight, but I just wanted to say IBTL

SlowATRDriver 04-21-2012 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1173519)
For some reason I thought you may have began training at gojet and left shortly into it. I must have you confused with somebody else.

I apologize if it was inaccurate.

Nope, you are absolutely right about DryMotorBoatin. He was employed by "GoJet". He got kicked/washed out of training.

He posted his sad story on this forum years ago.

"DryMotorBoatin", If you are reading this, please note that "GoJet" is in your blood right now. Everytime an airline requests PRIA, they will see that you were employed by GoJet.

CaptainCarl 04-22-2012 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by SlowATRDriver:1173615

Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1173519)
For some reason I thought you may have began training at gojet and left shortly into it. I must have you confused with somebody else.

I apologize if it was inaccurate.

Nope, you are absolutely right about DryMotorBoatin. He was employed by "GoJet". He got kicked/washed out of training.

He posted his sad story on this forum years ago.

"DryMotorBoatin", If you are reading this, please note that "GoJet" is in your blood right now. Everytime an airline requests PRIA, they will see that you were employed by GoJet.

And Randy Babbitt has a DUI. What's your point?

In.

2bennySODC6 04-22-2012 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 1173649)
And Randy Babbitt has a DUI. What's your point?

In.

Holy sheeeit, are you serious?? My C.P. has two and he is working on his third one as we speak!!:eek::eek:

ImperialxRat 04-22-2012 04:40 AM

What part of the CBA would it violate to leave these guys as CQFO's? Also I had never heard that term before now.

RgrMurdock 04-22-2012 07:13 AM

Its a blended rate. Regardless on what seat you are in.

DryMotorBoatin 04-22-2012 07:14 AM

Left after day 1. Wouldn't quite say I washed out unless I failed the test on how to put my jepps in my binders. I saw what that place was about. And as far as PRIA goes...That was almost 5 years ago so its coming up on not mattering and regardless, I haven't had a problem getting interviews/a job with it in my background. Enough of the other airlines know what type of place gojet is and they don't really put too much weight on that. people at expressjet were very adamant about that.

MachJ 04-22-2012 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1173759)
Left after day 1.

You chose wisely. And you speak from first-hand experience instead of hearsay or forum fodder.

bernouli 04-22-2012 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 1173778)
You chose wisely. And you speak from first-hand experience instead of hearsay or forum fodder.

the only things he chose were to interview at gojet, accept the job, pick a class date, and show up.

his departure wasn't a choice - it was forced b/c DMB verbally bashed the company within ear shot of management.

it's unfortunate. those hired in 2007 are relatively senior line holders as captains. being fired from G7 was a mistake that him cost well over $100K in compensation, not to mention an adequate amount of PIC turbine logged.

bernouli 04-22-2012 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1173759)
Left after day 1. Wouldn't quite say I washed out unless I failed the test on how to put my jepps in my binders. I saw what that place was about. And as far as PRIA goes...That was almost 5 years ago so its coming up on not mattering and regardless, I haven't had a problem getting interviews/a job with it in my background. Enough of the other airlines know what type of place gojet is and they don't really put too much weight on that. people at expressjet were very adamant about that.

imagine that.


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