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TallFlyer 04-17-2015 10:05 AM

The Next GoJet Thread...
 
Well, seeing as how after 2 years the last GoJet thread was finally locked, here's the next one.

In my humble opinion: If you live in base, an ok gig, not great, but driving to work is worthwhile.

If you live elsewhere? Well, you decide.

ASaintBernard 04-17-2015 10:17 AM

What's the point in starting a thread that is just a manhood measuring contest? Regional pilots are too immature to act civil and not start debates about "my airline is better"

TallFlyer 04-17-2015 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by ASaintBernard (Post 1863762)
What's the point in starting a thread that is just a manhood measuring contest? Regional pilots are too immature to act civil and not start debates about "my airline is better"

Wasn't aware I was participating in any manhhod measuring.

In any event, no doubt the usual suspects will be along soon.

Facebitten 04-17-2015 10:35 AM

how long is reserve?

upgrade is 18 months?

how many numbers are guys moving a month?

chances are i will get stuck in ord for a few months before i can bid to den or rdu?

other than the whipsawing b.s. that i really dont care to understand nor do i want to. is it a good group of pilots to fly with?

are credit and block the same?

also i seriously need help with figuring out what to do about reading LIDO charts. i hate them and prefer jepps. i get confused on how to read them and thats the last thing i want to be doing in the sim.

ASaintBernard 04-17-2015 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1863775)
Wasn't aware I was participating in any manhhod measuring.

In any event, no doubt the usual suspects will be along soon.

I don't care either way it just gets pathetic when people have questions and have to sort through the garbage to find their answers. I hope this can make it to 6 posts before it becomes atrocious again.

motormadness 04-17-2015 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Facebitten (Post 1863779)
how long is reserve?



upgrade is 18 months?



how many numbers are guys moving a month?



chances are i will get stuck in ord for a few months before i can bid to den or rdu?



other than the whipsawing b.s. that i really dont care to understand nor do i want to. is it a good group of pilots to fly with?



are credit and block the same?



also i seriously need help with figuring out what to do about reading LIDO charts. i hate them and prefer jepps. i get confused on how to read them and thats the last thing i want to be doing in the sim.


Did you tell them about Mesa?


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TheGoldenJet 04-17-2015 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Facebitten (Post 1863779)
how long is reserve?

upgrade is 18 months?

how many numbers are guys moving a month?

chances are i will get stuck in ord for a few months before i can bid to den or rdu?

other than the whipsawing b.s. that i really dont care to understand nor do i want to. is it a good group of pilots to fly with?

are credit and block the same?

also i seriously need help with figuring out what to do about reading LIDO charts. i hate them and prefer jepps. i get confused on how to read them and thats the last thing i want to be doing in the sim.

Before the usual TSA guys come on here and ramble on with their nonsense let me give my input from an actual G7 "scab" or whatever they call us nowadays.

Plan to sit reserve 1 month at that most

Yes 18 months. Upgrading 20 a month till I guess whenever they can't upgrade anymore.

I've been here a year now and give or take moving up 10-20 senority numbers a month.

You should be able to hold RDU right out of training. STL is the junior base though for FO's.

From my experiences awesome group of guys to fly with. Never have had any problems so far. Of course every airline has that 2% but I haven't seen them yet. (Most of them are over at TSA). This isn't 2005 anymore. I've never been denied a jumpseat and most majors I jumpseat on they have no clue who GoJet even is. Lot of guys leaving to JBU and UAL at the moment so don't believe the crap people spill on here about tarnishing your career. I myself have an interview next month at another major 121 carrier so it's worked out for me.

I don't need to say our contract sucks. It does. Really bad. We all know it and everyone in this industry knows it. Look how long TSA took to finally get theirs. But I will say whenever hell freezes over and we do get one it will be better than TSA's.

And finally yes LIDO's do suck but we're still using Jepps now at the moment. No trial period has been approved for use of them in flight yet.

That's all I got. Now to wait for the trolls.

Coneydog 04-17-2015 12:43 PM

If you want your thread to stay free of all the TSA vitriol, then maybe you should just answer the guys questions without even mentioning TSA. Instead, you take several jabs at Trans States in your first post...you just can't help yourself I guess...smh.

TheGoldenJet 04-17-2015 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Coneydog (Post 1863844)
If you want your thread to stay free of all the TSA vitriol, then maybe you should just answer the guys questions without even mentioning TSA. Instead, you take several jabs at Trans States in your first post...you just can't help yourself I guess...smh.

Haha it wouldn't make a difference bro you guys would of showed up anyways. Oh wait here you are. Sup homie! Join the party!

CBreezy 04-17-2015 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by TheGoldenJet (Post 1863846)
Haha it wouldn't make a difference bro you guys would of showed up anyways. Oh wait here you are. Sup homie! Join the party!

I don't think he's a TSA guy.

Jungle gym 04-17-2015 02:00 PM

ORD?
 
Plan on applying as soon as Monday. What are my chances if I get hired of being based at ORD right out of training?

Cubdriver 04-17-2015 02:12 PM

[mod note]

Please refrain from posting personally revealing data about other users at APC. Be at least minimally respectful so this thread can go on a long time. Two posts were deleted from this page.

FlyingKat 04-17-2015 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by TheGoldenJet (Post 1863829)
Before the usual TSA guys come on here and ramble on with their nonsense let me give my input from an actual G7 "scab" or whatever they call us nowadays.

Plan to sit reserve 1 month at that most

Yes 18 months. Upgrading 20 a month till I guess whenever they can't upgrade anymore.

I've been here a year now and give or take moving up 10-20 senority numbers a month.

You should be able to hold RDU right out of training. STL is the junior base though for FO's.

From my experiences awesome group of guys to fly with. Never have had any problems so far. Of course every airline has that 2% but I haven't seen them yet. (Most of them are over at TSA). This isn't 2005 anymore. I've never been denied a jumpseat and most majors I jumpseat on they have no clue who GoJet even is. Lot of guys leaving to JBU and UAL at the moment so don't believe the crap people spill on here about tarnishing your career. I myself have an interview next month at another major 121 carrier so it's worked out for me.

I don't need to say our contract sucks. It does. Really bad. We all know it and everyone in this industry knows it. Look how long TSA took to finally get theirs. But I will say whenever hell freezes over and we do get one it will be better than TSA's.

And finally yes LIDO's do suck but we're still using Jepps now at the moment. No trial period has been approved for use of them in flight yet.

That's all I got. Now to wait for the trolls.

Well since you brought up TSA, 2005 is still relevant because Delta is using your contract to force rate resets on other airlines.

Of course you will have a better contract after you are stapled to the bottom of the TSA list after the merger.....

theycallmered 04-17-2015 02:20 PM

As I've said on here before, I've had a good experience at GoJet thus far. I spent 1.5 months on reserve in ORD. I've had most weekends and almost every holiday off since I started (due to luck, I'm sure, but hey who cares). Each month I've been here I've been dropped from a trip for someone else's IOE, which means 16 days off and then picking up trips to credit 100+ hours. Not bad. Crews are great. There are some complainers but you will find that anywhere. I've been flying a lot and the 2ish year upgrades are real. I'm genuinely glad I came here.

On Autopilot 04-17-2015 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1863755)
Well, seeing as how after 2 years the last GoJet thread was finally locked, here's the next one.

In my humble opinion: If you live in base, an ok gig, not great, but driving to work is worthwhile.

If you live elsewhere? Well, you decide.

IN BEFORE THE LOCK


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bernouli 04-17-2015 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1863892)
Well since you brought up TSA, 2005 is still relevant because Delta is using your contract to force rate resets on other airlines.

Of course you will have a better contract after you are stapled to the bottom of the TSA list after the merger.....

If they were to merge together, which they never will, a staple is against federal statute. Last I checked (and it's been awhile), the G7 pilot group was bigger than TSA anyway, and they fly bigger aircraft. You can still dream...

Refer to Mccaskill-Bond.

On Autopilot 04-17-2015 02:25 PM

[QUOTE=theycallmered;1863894]As I've said on here before, I've had a good experience at GoJet thus far.




yea, I got nothing.

On Autopilot 04-17-2015 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1863899)
If they were to merge together, which they never will, a staple is against federal statute. Last I checked (and it's been awhile), the G7 pilot group was bigger than TSA anyway, and they fly bigger aircraft. You can still dream...

Refer to Mccaskill-Bond.

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TallFlyer 04-17-2015 02:46 PM

Man, it's like 1984 around here.


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Coneydog 04-17-2015 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by TheGoldenJet (Post 1863846)
Haha it wouldn't make a difference bro you guys would of showed up anyways. Oh wait here you are. Sup homie! Join the party!

Lol...I was just making a point. Wasn't gonna say anything disparaging about Gojet. It's all in good fun anyhow. Honestly, all the Gojet pilots I've met in person have been real cool. I'm not sure about the 2 posts that were deleted for personal information, but I wouldn't say anything on this forum that I wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm not one pf these a$$ clowns hiding behind a tough guy Internet persona.

TheGoldenJet 04-17-2015 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1863892)
Well since you brought up TSA, 2005 is still relevant because Delta is using your contract to force rate resets on other airlines.

Of course you will have a better contract after you are stapled to the bottom of the TSA list after the merger.....

Bro you guys act like we care and I'm sorry homie enjoy the merger I won't be here when it happens. Thank God.

TheGoldenJet 04-17-2015 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Coneydog (Post 1863921)
Lol...I was just making a point. Wasn't gonna say anything disparaging about Gojet. It's all in good fun anyhow. Honestly, all the Gojet pilots I've met in person have been real cool. I'm not sure about the 2 posts that were deleted for personal information, but I wouldn't say anything on this forum that I wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm not one pf these a$$ clowns hiding behind a tough guy Internet persona.

I just finished my commute home so I didn't see the posts that were deleted. I'm with you bro. I have friends at TSA. I'm based at STL so I see TSA guys all the time and I don't have a problem with any of them. We always chat and they all seem like good people. I just don't like the crap people spew on here where we are all in the same position. To get your time and experience and get out. Like I said I'm STL base so if anyone wants to have a man face to face chat with me just send me a PM and we'll set it up.

ComAirColonel 04-17-2015 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by TheGoldenJet (Post 1863829)
From my experiences awesome group of guys to fly with. Never have had any problems so far. Of course every airline has that 2% but I haven't seen them yet. (Most of them are over at TSA). This isn't 2005 anymore. I've never been denied a jumpseat and most majors I jumpseat on they have no clue who GoJet even is. Lot of guys leaving to JBU and UAL at the moment so don't believe the crap people spill on here about tarnishing your career. I myself have an interview next month at another major 121 carrier so it's worked out for me.

I don't need to say our contract sucks. It does. Really bad. We all know it and everyone in this industry knows it. Look how long TSA took to finally get theirs. But I will say whenever hell freezes over and we do get one it will be better than TSA's.

That's all I got. Now to wait for the trolls.

Its not the line pilots who are the problem, its what management is willing to do to you to save a dollar. When your family needs the medical coverage that you have been paying for, you should not count on it being there. Don't count on the union to uphold your rights, they don't know how, they may want to but they don't what to do. I've been at good airlines and I've been at Gojet, there is a difference. Good luck with the interview TheGoldenJet, G7 will miss your recruiting efforts.

TheGoldenJet 04-17-2015 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by ComAirColonel (Post 1863975)
Its not the line pilots who are the problem, its what management is willing to do to you to save a dollar. When your family needs the medical coverage that you have been paying for, you should not count on it being there. Don't count on the union to uphold your rights, they don't know how, they may want to but they don't what to do. I've been at good airlines and I've been at Gojet, there is a difference. Good luck with the interview TheGoldenJet, G7 will miss your recruiting efforts.

I agree with you 110%. I'm not defending them one bit. I know they are the problem. I was just stating how my tenure has been here so far. I'm sorry if you've been screwed. Luckily I haven't yet. Keyword "yet". I'm sure it's coming. And by no means am I recruiting anyone. Just telling it like it is.

spikemath 04-19-2015 07:59 PM

Could somebody explain what this means, "Not cancelation pay, the named honored hours, and the pay you at the end of the monht up to 98 % of your cancelled flights" ? It's from the airline profile page on here. Thanks!

TalkTurkey 04-20-2015 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1863899)
If they were to merge together, which they never will, a staple is against federal statute. Last I checked (and it's been awhile), the G7 pilot group was bigger than TSA anyway, and they fly bigger aircraft. You can still dream...

Refer to Mccaskill-Bond.

This is true if both carriers are Union labor protected.

TheGoldenJet 04-20-2015 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by spikemath (Post 1865048)
Could somebody explain what this means, "Not cancelation pay, the named honored hours, and the pay you at the end of the monht up to 98 % of your cancelled flights" ? It's from the airline profile page on here. Thanks!

I know we are paid our line guarantee (74 hours) or 95% of our awarded line. Whichever is greater. As far as the 98% thing I'm not too sure.

srbpilot 04-22-2015 05:27 PM

$10000 sign up bonus...will that be enough to staff them accordingly???

TheGoldenJet 04-22-2015 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by srbpilot (Post 1866926)
$10000 sign up bonus...will that be enough to staff them accordingly???

No idea. Would be nice if they stopped upping the bonuses and just give us a damn contract already.

CBreezy 04-23-2015 07:29 AM

GoJet has signed a deal with ATP for tuition reimbursement.
-interview at 300 hours and receive $5 per flight hour flown up to 1500TT.
-once hired, receive $500 per month for the first year for tuition reimbursement.

Has the union signed off on this? Thoughts?

TheGoldenJet 04-23-2015 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1867204)
GoJet has signed a deal with ATP for tuition reimbursement.
-interview at 300 hours and receive $5 per flight hour flown up to 1500TT.
-once hired, receive $500 per month for the first year for tuition reimbursement.

Has the union signed off on this? Thoughts?

We've heard the ATP part not details of it. We did the math on the amount of money it's gonna cost per student including the new bonus. Comes out to be around 21k spent per pilot. They need to just give us a new contract already. Might actually save them some money lol.

seekingblue 04-23-2015 11:31 AM

I'm overjoyed that the New Hire signing is being Upped. Now all we need is, a new contract and we are set.


As an aside, there are a TON of Gojet people moving on to Jetblue. So, ideally we can get more people in the door at G7 and continue to have a significant amount come to Blue...... then everyone wins.


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