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11-05-2017, 09:09 PM

#21

Airhoss

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Originally Posted by TheFly

YMBAGP if;

SA227 single pilot IFR......

SA226 here not one of them ultra modern 227's.

11-06-2017, 05:02 AM

#22

say again

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Thanks for the stories! Now I have new material to pick up girls at the bar.

11-06-2017, 05:49 AM

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Airhoss

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Thanks for the stories! Now I have new material to pick up girls at the bar.

Trying to use pilot geek stories to pick girls is poor judgement.

11-06-2017, 06:20 AM

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say again

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Trying to use pilot geek stories to pick girls is poor judgement.

Why should poor judgment stop in an air?!?! Continue it at the bar. Chicks dig it. I'm sure you sense the sarcasm now, hopefully?

11-06-2017, 07:30 AM

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badflaps

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Bring small pieces of the airplane too, show and tell works well on the bar scene.

11-07-2017, 03:10 PM

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Airhoss

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Why should poor judgment stop in an air?!?! Continue it at the bar. Chicks dig it. I'm sure you sense the sarcasm now, hopefully?

Ditto..........................................

11-07-2017, 04:08 PM

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Flightcap

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So many people saying single engine IMC is a bad idea. Is this only under the conditions the OP described - single pilot night flying in hard IMC in icing conditions? (Heaven help the idiot who decides to leave the ground in a C172 into known IMC with temps anywhere near icing levels, day or not).

11-08-2017, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Flightcap

Personally...

I will not do SE in IMC anymore, other than to possibly get out of a marine layer at the home drome where I know exactly when and where to turn for the engine-out landing spot.

I will not do SE at night unless the geography is very flat and the lighting sufficient to see what's on the ground (ie full moon).

I'm pretty certain I can achieve a good outcome with an EO LDG... as long as I can see where I'm going.

I'm probably not the only 121 veteran with this mentality. Of course GA for me is just recreation, so might as well go on a nice day otherwise it starts to feel like work.

11-08-2017, 11:30 AM

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Yep! The big difference between me and a lot of guys who still do fly SE IMC or night is that I've had two dead stick landings in my life. That will make you start thinking Hmmmm...If that had happened at night or IMC it would have really sucked!

Actually having an engine failure and making a dead stick landing off field is a wake up call to stop doing stupid stuff.

11-08-2017, 01:24 PM

#30

JohnBurke

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Originally Posted by Airhoss

Actually having an engine failure and making a dead stick landing off field is a wake up call to stop doing stupid stuff.

As is the experience of a vacuum failure, gyro failure, electrical failure, etc.

Single engine night...just how does one see to make a forced landing? Just how many backup electrical sources does one have? How much performance? How much capability? How many vacuum sources? How much backup instrumentation? What level of redundancy?

Single engine IFR is much the same.

Single pilot IFR is among the most demanding flying a pilot can do. Single engine single pilot IFR all the more so, and at night; one can stack the deck and move the proverbial swiss cheese around just enough that the holes align. It doesn't take much.

I rarely hear an experienced aviator talk enthusiastically about single engine night IMC, but I hear a lot of inexperienced ones defend the practice. Why is that?