Here’s a known, actual dangerous drug (with a dramatically lower LD50 than cannabis) dressed as candy, and parents simply keep it away from kids:
Trader Joe's Dark Chocolate Covered Espresso Beans 14 oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009RS7VIK..._IQNqBbXHXV0VA |
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 2630424)
Here’s a known, actual dangerous drug (with a dramatically lower LD50 than cannabis) dressed as candy, and parents simply keep it away from kids:
Trader Joe's Dark Chocolate Covered Espresso Beans 14 oz. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009RS7VIK..._IQNqBbXHXV0VA I didn't know it was dangerous though. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2630430)
Haha, my kid got hold of some of those at about age 2. She was still up watching PBS at 0200 when I finally went to bed. A bit cranky the next day though.
I didn't know it was dangerous though. I got my beans from the Ben and Jerry’s in EWR C concourse. So delicious, so energizing, so expensive (seriously WTF). Hmmmm now that I think of it, I may go get some :D |
Originally Posted by RomSh85
(Post 3009363)
Big part of the reason weed will probably never be legal for pilots especially long haul is the possibility of being tested overseas where it ust still illegal and end up in jail. Even if it's been weeks. Might not like it but thems the rules.
CBD is a different thing. |
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
(Post 3009502)
In the eyes of the DOT, not yet it isn't.
As was pointed out above some nations take an extreme view of illegal drugs. Selling a dime bag will get you a hollow point in the back of the head in some places, so I imagine a pilot who popped would be looking at some very serious time in the local Hanoi Hilton. |
Chemically, yes, CBD is not the same thing. Pharmaceutically pure CBD contains no THC, has no psychoactive properties and would not cause a positive on a DOT test. Sounds good, right? Yeah, not so fast. a couple of problems: 1) According to the Federal Government CBD is a Schedule 1 drug, so in the eyes of the federal government, CBD is in the same category as Heroin and LSD, 2) I said Phamaceutically pure CBD wouldn't cause a positive on a DOT test. Thing is, it's not all pharmacutically pure. Even though you can go in stores and openly buy CBD in some states, there are no controls on the quality of the extraction. You're trusting that whomever is producing the CBD you're taking is producing a a high quality extract that contains no THC. That's not always a safe bet. An AME in my local area posted on social media that he had patients (at least one, it might have been 2, no names or personal details so HIPPA patient confidentiality wasn't violated) who had tested positive for THC after taking CBD which they believed was safe. I'm willing to consider that CBD may have some therapeutic benefits, and if folks are getting positive results from CBD, more power to them. I damn sure wouldn't knowingly take them myself, as long as my career is dependent on passing a DOT screening test. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3009579)
Correct. CBD can make you pop positive, and there's no way to differentiate between CBD and more traditional MJ use.
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3009579)
Either way, you're done.
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Originally Posted by A Squared
(Post 3009643)
Not *quite* correct, I don't think. As I understand it. CBD will *not* cause a positive for THC on a DOT screening test, *BUT* CBD products have no quality control, and the CBD product you buy may contain THC which of course *will* cause a positive on a DOT test.
My understanding is some CBD is intentionally left with THC, to enhance the end-user experience (and hopefully encourage repeat customers). |
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