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Old 03-26-2020, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido View Post
Questioning authority eh? No blunt & beer for you.
I’m actually straight edge (no drugs OR drinking) until 65. My job is more important than any personal habits I may or may not have had when I was younger.....and beer makes you fat. HOWEVER.....I am quick to call BS on people who make up false claims regarding a substance just because it’s been stigmatized for years. I also don’t judge those who want to drink every night. ADULTS get to make their own choices, until it affects my safety or our passengers.
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How do you like this then? When used in moderation, both marijuana and alcohol provide very little benefit or risk to health or safety. When used in excess, both can cause serious risk. People like to demonize weed and portray recreational users as drug addicts when they’re not. We live in a society where alcohol and tobacco are responsible for over 500,000 deaths per year, where our high carb/sugar diet has caused an explosion in type 2 diabetes, yet weed is what we demonize.
What do you consider excess use of weed?
Why are you so worried about what people think of you using pot?
If someone disagrees with you about using weed, that is not demonizing. That is stating their thought/opinion. Just because you or I like something does not mean anyone else has too. You may have strong feelings about using weed and others may have strong feelings in the opposite direction. That is very normal.

Personally, I just don't understand why anyone would place an ignited substance emitting combustible byproducts (including vaping) into their pie hole and deliver it directly into their lungs via the trachea and bronchial tubes. Just don't expect any hugs from your lower respiratory track for doing that regardless of frequency.

Seems to be more than a few emergency room studies that indicate eating weed has its own special ramifications at times. Just makes me wonder.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:44 AM
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So I guess the upside is that most of the people posting here will be on the street by next year and can smoke all the weed they want.

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Old 03-26-2020, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RhinoPherret View Post
What do you consider excess use of weed?
Why are you so worried about what people think of you using pot?
If someone disagrees with you about using weed, that is not demonizing. That is stating their thought/opinion. Just because you or I like something does not mean anyone else has too. You may have strong feelings about using weed and others may have strong feelings in the opposite direction. That is very normal.

Personally, I just don't understand why anyone would place an ignited substance emitting combustible byproducts (including vaping) into their pie hole and deliver it directly into their lungs via the trachea and bronchial tubes. Just don't expect any hugs from your lower respiratory track for doing that regardless of frequency.

Seems to be more than a few emergency room studies that indicate eating weed has its own special ramifications at times. Just makes me wonder.
I can’t use anything until I retire, and I’m old enough now where I don’t really want to. I don’t even drink enough to be considered a social drinker, therefore I don’t really care what people think. I don’t care if people agree or disagree with me on the issue. What I do find odd is how society says that pot should be illegal, yet more socially acceptable, but equally dangerous products such as alcohol, tobacco, sugar, etc. are OK. My argument is that people should be able to make the choice for themselves. If they want to sit on the couch and smoke a joint, have a few beers, or chase a bag of chips down with a cherry pie and a 2 liter of cola, have at it. If another person decides that eating healthy and regular sleep and exercise is a better option, then they can go down that road. Weed isn’t healthy, but neither are many other products that people put into their bodies.

As to your question as to what an excessive amount would be, that depends on the individual. When anything gets in the way of a persons ability to function at the level that is needed, it has become excessive. Most people can have a few beers every night after work and be just fine, others can’t even handle one sip without going deep down the rabbit hole. Weed is no different. There is a very small minority who would be stoned all day and worthless, but no more than the number of alcoholics who are drunk all day and in the same boat.
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It is, but it isn't.

Chemically, yes, CBD is not the same thing. Pharmaceutically pure CBD contains no THC, has no psychoactive properties and would not cause a positive on a DOT test.

Sounds good, right? Yeah, not so fast. a couple of problems:

1) According to the Federal Government CBD is a Schedule 1 drug, so in the eyes of the federal government, CBD is in the same category as Heroin and LSD,
That’s not true. CBD varies in THC content and it varies based on state laws, even among states that have legalized medical cannabis. If CBD is under 0.1% THC content, it is not Schedule 1. The 2018 Farm Bill enabled states with no legal cannabis to process CBD and still be in compliance with federal law.
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Old 03-31-2020, 11:48 AM
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That’s not true. CBD varies in THC content and it varies based on state laws, even among states that have legalized medical cannabis. If CBD is under 0.1% THC content, it is not Schedule 1. The 2018 Farm Bill enabled states with no legal cannabis to process CBD and still be in compliance with federal law.
If you pop positive it doesn't matter what schedule your edible falls under... you'll still be unemployed.
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If you pop positive it doesn't matter what schedule your edible falls under... you'll still be unemployed.
Why is this so hard to understand? I don’t think trucking will be a fallback job, either.
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Old 03-31-2020, 12:59 PM
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I live in a state where MJ is quasi legalized. On the few occasions I'm out hiking, or walking in town and am about to pass people smoking it, I hold my breath for fear that 2nd hand smoke could cause me to test positive on a random DOT.

Am I being paranoid? I just don't want to risk my career over something like this. I do seem to recall someone on APC saying that for this reason the threshold for THC in tests is high enough, but still......
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Old 03-31-2020, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LeftWing View Post
That’s not true. CBD varies in THC content and it varies based on state laws, even among states that have legalized medical cannabis. If CBD is under 0.1% THC content, it is not Schedule 1. The 2018 Farm Bill enabled states with no legal cannabis to process CBD and still be in compliance with federal law.
OK, thanks for the clarification. My impression (perhaps incorrect) was that extracts from the cannabis plant fell within Schedule 1, regardless of THC content.

Anyway, my larger point was that taking CBD products (even CBD products advertised as free of THC) *might* cause you to pop positive, and that saying it came from legal CBD extracts isn't a defense. I believe that is still accurate.
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer View Post
I live in a state where MJ is quasi legalized. On the few occasions I'm out hiking, or walking in town and am about to pass people smoking it, I hold my breath for fear that 2nd hand smoke could cause me to test positive on a random DOT.

Am I being paranoid? I just don't want to risk my career over something like this. I do seem to recall someone on APC saying that for this reason the threshold for THC in tests is high enough, but still......
No, I don't think you're being paranoid, just understandably concerned about something you don't know a lot about, and which has catastrophic consequences. Honestly, I wondered the same thing, until doing some reading. There have been studies about this. I read a study which found that is is possible to pop positive at DOT screening levels due to breathing second hand smoke, but it's difficult to achieve. In order to do that, the researchers put the test subject in a small, enclosed ventilated space with some smokers who were smoking heavily. So my takeaway, is that walking past some guys sparking it up on a street corner isn't going to cause you to register positive.
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