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Old 04-02-2020, 08:59 AM
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I’m not “taking myself seriously” by discussing the issue. There are opinions that are informed by facts. There are also irrational opinions rooted in historical fearmongering and misunderstanding, which the prohibition on MJ is.
Which is just your opinion once again.
What you are really saying and showing consistently throughout out your posts is there is your opinion and anyone else that has a different opinion cannot possibly have a legitimate reason for their opinion. Your way or no way. That is not conducting a discussion, that is lecturing as an authority which you are not.

However, as we know, your opinion, my opinion or anyone else's opinion on pot has no bearing or effect on any of this.
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Which is just your opinion once again.
What you are really saying and showing consistently throughout out your posts is there is your opinion and anyone else that has a different opinion cannot possibly have a legitimate reason for their opinion. Your way or no way. That is not conducting a discussion, that is lecturing as an authority which you are not.

However, as we know, your opinion, my opinion or anyone else's opinion on pot has no bearing or effect on any of this.
I what he may be discussing is how MJ ended up as Schedule 1.
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Originally Posted by RhinoPherret View Post
Which is just your opinion once again.
What you are really saying and showing consistently throughout out your posts is there is your opinion and anyone else that has a different opinion cannot possibly have a legitimate reason for their opinion. Your way or no way. That is not conducting a discussion, that is lecturing as an authority which you are not.

However, as we know, your opinion, my opinion or anyone else's opinion on pot has no bearing or effect on any of this.
what I’m saying is that the people who disagree have done an insufficient job of justifying their opinion, mostly because they don’t understand MJ and have outdated views informed by historical misinformation, fearmongering, racist policies, and corporate malfeasance. I’m very open to other opinions when they’re intellectually consistent and informed by facts.

if you want to play the “we can’t talk about anything because opinions are just opinions,” we can just shut down all discourse on every subject.
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what I’m saying is that the people who disagree have done an insufficient job of justifying their opinion, mostly because they don’t understand MJ and have outdated views informed by historical misinformation, fearmongering, racist policies, and corporate malfeasance. I’m very open to other opinions when they’re intellectually consistent and informed by facts.

if you want to play the “we can’t talk about anything because opinions are just opinions,” we can just shut down all discourse on every subject.
I'll tell you what. I was just out working on my property and out of nowhere a stabbing pain in the side of my stomach. I rip off my shirt and see a big old hornet crawling on it. That bad boy hammered me big time.If I was not worried about the route of ingestion, I could even use a dose of medical pot right now. Big time ouchie! lol
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I'll tell you what. I was just out working on my property and out of nowhere a stabbing pain in the side of my stomach. I rip off my shirt and see a big old hornet crawling on it. That bad boy hammered me big time.If I was not worried about the route of ingestion, I could even use a dose of medical pot right now. Big time ouchie! lol
Maybe if it came in a lotion you could rub directly on the sting ....
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Maybe if it came in a lotion you could rub directly on the sting ....
Maybe. But then would I turn into a pot head? lol I would rub just about anything on it right now to get some relief.
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
what I’m saying is that the people who disagree have done an insufficient job of justifying their opinion, mostly because they don’t understand MJ and have outdated views informed by historical misinformation, fearmongering, racist policies, and corporate malfeasance. I’m very open to other opinions when they’re intellectually consistent and informed by facts.

if you want to play the “we can’t talk about anything because opinions are just opinions,” we can just shut down all discourse on every subject.
Here you go OOfff. The 1987 wreck of Amtrak 94. A tragic screw up that ultimately prompted the legislative action you now call 'outdated.' Where an engineer & brakeman enjoyed a 'harmless' bone after which 14 passengers and two co-workers got their last ride. You can't understand dependency solely from reading about it. The burden of lobbying change to current safeguards lies in your data, your proof, not the ticketed passengers you're paid to protect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_M...rain_collision
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Here you go OOfff. The 1987 wreck of Amtrak 94. A tragic screw up that ultimately prompted the legislative action you now call 'outdated.' Where an engineer & brakeman enjoyed a 'harmless' bone after which 14 passengers and two co-workers got their last ride. You can't understand dependency solely from reading about it. The burden of lobbying change to current safeguards lies in your data, your proof, not the ticketed passengers you're paid to protect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_M...rain_collision
is this where you pretend anyone in this thread is advocating for being intoxicated on the job? Or do you want to walk back this stupid strawman argument and use one that’s intellectually honest?
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Originally Posted by METO Guido View Post
Here you go OOfff. The 1987 wreck of Amtrak 94. A tragic screw up that ultimately prompted the legislative action you now call 'outdated.' Where an engineer & brakeman enjoyed a 'harmless' bone after which 14 passengers and two co-workers got their last ride. You can't understand dependency solely from reading about it. The burden of lobbying change to current safeguards lies in your data, your proof, not the ticketed passengers you're paid to protect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_M...rain_collision
https://abcnews.go.com/US/30-years-2...ry?id=55119258

This can go on all day. Pretty sure there have been some tragic marine accidents too involving huge loss of life and alcohol. The idea that one can use alcohol "responsibly" but not pot is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by METO Guido View Post
Here you go OOfff. The 1987 wreck of Amtrak 94. A tragic screw up that ultimately prompted the legislative action you now call 'outdated.' Where an engineer & brakeman enjoyed a 'harmless' bone after which 14 passengers and two co-workers got their last ride. You can't understand dependency solely from reading about it. The burden of lobbying change to current safeguards lies in your data, your proof, not the ticketed passengers you're paid to protect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_M...rain_collision
OK, I'll play your silly game.


Eltham Well Hall rail crash

Carrollton bus collision

1991 Union Square derailment


Score is 1 to 3, or 14 to 38, depending on whether we're counting wrecks or bodies. You want to keep playing? I think we both know that I'm going to completely bury you people killed in drunken accidents.

Alternately, we could admit that not one single person here has advocated that pilots or railroad engineers, or Tanker captains, or drivers should be performing their duties intoxicated on anything, and quite trying to knock that strawman down.
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