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Old 05-10-2018, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by atlphx View Post
As a student pilot, I just do not understand why anyone would be behind destroying an upper-middle-class career which is becoming a rarity in America.
Don’t worry. The robots are a long way off. The more experience you get the more you’ll realize that there is a lot we do that can’t be replaced wih programming. And the people who would program us out of aircraft would need the exerience we have in order to even come close to safely automating what we do. It’s a Catch-22 and nerd fantasy. Learn to fly if it’s your passion and enjoy a wonderful career.
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by atlphx View Post
As a student pilot, I just do not understand why anyone would be behind destroying an upper-middle-class career which is becoming a rarity in America.
Exactly. It's as much a government/political problem as a technical one.

Executives see great potential... naturally. Congress not so much.

There is consensus in industry, congress, and even the public that small short-range drones can open up new economic arenas... those will have to be unmanned due to their size, but that does not translate to automated airliners.

Replacing airline pilots will have little to no economic benefit to the public, won't be a "game changer" in travel, will require a vast up-front investment with no near-term return, and still have unresolved safety ramification.

The FAA wants nothing to do with any of it. they don't have the skills, funding, or initiative. They also don't get paid or rewarded to take risks. The only way the FAA is touching any of it is if they are ordered to do so by congress or the executive branch (actually I think congressional involvement will be required due to the need for significant additional funding).

You can safely tune out the background noise from silicone valley and industry associations... the former have more vision than understanding of the problem, the latter will run anything up the flagpole just to see who salutes.
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As a student pilot, I just do not understand why anyone would be behind destroying an upper-middle-class career which is becoming a rarity in America.
Um, first of all congrats on graduating high school.

Secondly, dump everything you learned about the US being a representative government. It belongs more or less entirely to wealthy corporate overlords. Every descision it makes is in their interests. The end goal is to have no middle class, no unions, just all the currently wealthy even wealthier leaving the rest of us in servitude to them.

Once you look at things this way you will realize that all the "stupid" descisions the US goverment makes on everything from trade, to foreign policy, to domestic programs suddenly make perfect sense.

If I were you I would drop out of flight school and go into finance. Seriously.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
Um, first of all congrats on graduating high school.

Secondly, dump everything you learned about the US being a representative government. It belongs more or less entirely to wealthy corporate overlords. Every descision it makes is in their interests. The end goal is to have no middle class, no unions, just all the currently wealthy even wealthier leaving the rest of us in servitude to them.

Once you look at things this way you will realize that all the "stupid" descisions the US goverment makes on everything from trade, to foreign policy, to domestic programs suddenly make perfect sense.

If I were you I would drop out of flight school and go into finance. Seriously.
I think you're giving government waaaay too much credit... they couldn't conspire their way out of a wet paper bag
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:51 AM
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Hey guys, I just wanted to clarify that I completely understand the business side of this and it’s a no-brainer from an executive point of view but I am saying from the customer point of and regulatory point of view that not having pilots would be a stupid thing to support.
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Originally Posted by atlphx View Post
Hey guys, I just wanted to clarify that I completely understand the business side of this and it’s a no-brainer from an executive point of view but I am saying from the customer point of and regulatory point of view that not having pilots would be a stupid thing to support.


If you’ve learned anything about NextGen and the ADS-B implementation process you’ll feel pretty secure as a pilot that you’re career will be around for awhile. NextGen has been in the works for at least 15-20 years and ADS-B (one step of NextGen) has taken years and supposedly won’t be implemented fully until 1/1/2020. To get a fully autonomous airliner up and going and all pilots out of the cockpit is an absolutely massive task (and an absolutely massive understatement).


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The robots are coming!

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Why spread that money around 50 or 60 thousand pilots when instead it could be in the hands of 10-15 CEOs?
You just summed up corporate America........
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:47 PM
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I don't think any of us will have to worry about our jobs being replaced. I for one look forward to the automation as it replaces the drogs of society with better suited machines.
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Old 05-15-2018, 02:39 PM
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I'm not sure if this the right place to post but I have a question for any commercial or military pilot. If you are at 30000' and travelling 460 mph and then lose all engines. Now you're losing 7000 feet per minute headed down at a 20% slope then at 2000' AGL you pull the nose up what happens next? I realize different aircraft handle differently. I'm curious about fighter jet and about commercial airliners. What would happen next in the scenario. I'm not a pilot yet. But planning to start learning to fly this year. Thanks!
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