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Old 02-07-2019, 08:22 AM
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If anyone needs a good laugh, read up on the new proposal from NY Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Here is a link to an article about it

If you don't like NPR, feel free to google it. Lots of articles. Regardless of what part of the political spectrum you fall into, it is unbelievable to read the details of the proposal and not be amazed by it.

The reason that it belongs on this forum is that one of the goals is to put in so many high speed trains, it makes "air travel unnecessary". And remember, she was voted into office by Americans who believe in her vision.

It only takes 10 years to implement, so everybody might want to start dusting off their resumes.

Discuss. Or don't, I just thought it might make a few people laugh.

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Old 02-07-2019, 08:36 AM
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The real problem is the taxes they plan on the airlines. They will send us into another lost decade, probably worse than post 9/11.

There is no way they could eliminate air travel, but they could shrink us 50% through taxation.
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Looks like it's coming from within.

https://www.atr.org/green-new-deal-a...ming-necessary

This morning, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez released an overview of her “Green New Deal” which threatens "a massive transformation of our society."

Below are the details of the proposal.

Rebuild every single building in the U.S.

“Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency.”

Will end all traditional forms of energy in the next ten years.

The Green New Deal is “a 10-year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society at a scale not seen since World War 2 to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

Plans to ban nuclear energy within 10 years if possible.

“It’s unclear if we will be able to decommission every nuclear plant within 10 years, but the plan is to transition off of nuclear and all fossil fuels as soon as possible.”

Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!

“Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary”.

Don’t invest in new technology of Carbon Capture and Storage, just plant trees instead!

“We believe the right way to capture carbon is to plant trees and restore our natural ecosystems. CCUS technology to date has not proven effective.”

Mandates all new jobs be unionized.

“Ensure that all GND jobs are union jobs that pay prevailing wages and hire local.”

May include a carbon tax.

“We’re not ruling a carbon tax out, but a carbon tax would be a tiny part of a Green New Deal.”


May include cap and trade.

“…Cap and trade may be a tiny part of the larger Green New Deal plan.”

How much will it cost?

No estimate of the total cost of implementing the Green New deal is offered by Ocasio-Cortez.

However, as Ocasio-Cortez admits, “even if every billionaire and company came together and were willing to pour all the resources at their disposal into this investment, the aggregate value of the investments they could make would not be sufficient.”

She does provide one estimate that the cost to “repair and upgrade infrastructure U.S. infrastructure” alone will cost “$4.6 trillion at minimum.”

How will it be paid for? Don’t worry about that.

Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t provide any insight into how the trillions of dollars in spending will be paid for other than claiming, “The Federal Reserve can extend credit to power these projects and investments and new public banks can be created to extend credit”.

Bus as Ocasio-Cortez says, “the question isn’t how will we pay for it, but what will we do with our new shared prosperity”.
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Looks like it's coming from within.



https://www.atr.org/green-new-deal-a...ming-necessary


I literally just read this “deal”.

If you look at it, it isn’t just the end of aviation. It would be the end of our country and free market in many industries.

The plan called for “living wage for every family, vacation, retirement, and healthcare”.

This B*** is trying to sneak in her COMMUNIST agenda in this proposal.

If you read on twitter for example, it’s amazing to see sooooo many LIBTARDS actually having fantasies about a coast to coast railway, or taking buses instead of personal transportation.

This means war baby!


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I literally just read this “deal”.

If you look at it, it isn’t just the end of aviation. It would be the end of our country and free market in many industries.

The plan called for “living wage for every family, vacation, retirement, and healthcare”.

This B*** is trying to sneak in her COMMUNIST agenda in this proposal.

If you read on twitter for example, it’s amazing to see sooooo many LIBTARDS actually having fantasies about a coast to coast railway, or taking buses instead of personal transportation.

This means war baby!


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They also want to get rid of meat. Literally tax meat so much that only the rich can afford it.
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy View Post
They also want to get rid of meat. Literally tax meat so much that only the rich can afford it.


I saw that! But like I told my wife. Notice how they hide it in the language. It doesn’t say get rid of meat. It says help farmers as technologically as possible get rid of greenhouse emissions.

Diabolical!!


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She was elected by only a 4000 vote margin by a grand total of 16000 people. If she keeps up the insanity she’ll be a one term politician. She thinks she represents the future but she will quickly become history without common sense and humility.

Thank God our founders had the wisdom to put a minimum age on the office of the President.


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Looks like it's coming from within.

https://www.atr.org/green-new-deal-a...ming-necessary
So she plans on putting 65 million people (world wide) out of work by ending air travel?? She needs to lay off the adderall. It is turning her brain to mush.

https://aviationbenefits.org/economi...th/employment/
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Even Pelosi is rolling her eyes at her.

"It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive. The green dream, or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they're for it, right?"
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So many better things to concern yourself with than a fringe politician’s wish list.
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