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JamesNoBrakes 12-31-2019 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2948620)
The difference being connections being made several times a day as opposed to twice, three times a week. Not insurmountable, but difficult. I can think of only a few operations that would work with,say, Kenmore.

I think that's the target demographic, and it wouldn't work for every application they do, but there are some situations where it may work well.

galaxy flyer 12-31-2019 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 2948597)
Not sure if you know how these airplanes are operated. They are docked only at improved and dedicated facilities. Many are kept kept in the water at all times (on inspection programs that account for the marine environment). Sure there will be controls, but I see little difference between this and hooking up a large boat to shore power. Controls and technology will be needed of course, but this isn’t insurmountable.

Yes, I’ve seen Kenmore’s and Harbour Air’s operation, but they are floatplanes, beaches, poor ramps in the bush are part of the deal.

captive apple 12-31-2019 08:43 PM

The market is driving these electric planes.
It would be a huge advantage to cut 1/4 or 1/3 of the rental price out of the equation.

sailingfun 01-01-2020 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 2948597)
Not sure if you know how these airplanes are operated. They are docked only at improved and dedicated facilities. Many are kept kept in the water at all times (on inspection programs that account for the marine environment). Sure there will be controls, but I see little difference between this and hooking up a large boat to shore power. Controls and technology will be needed of course, but this isn’t insurmountable.

The amount of Amps needed to be pushed to the aircraft for a quick charge is nothing like shore power for a boat. A valid comparison is not even possible. Next time you get a chance take a look at the power cords for the new quick charge auto facilities. Cord length is also critical. To push those kinds of AMPS cords must be kept short or have massive diameters.

Mesabah 01-01-2020 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2948908)
The amount of Amps needed to be pushed to the aircraft for a quick charge is nothing like shore power for a boat. A valid comparison is not even possible. Next time you get a chance take a look at the power cords for the new quick charge auto facilities. Cord length is also critical. To push those kinds of AMPS cords must be kept short or have massive diameters.

I can't imagine how long a battery would last under those conditions as well. For an airliner, you might get 5 years if you are lucky. I think to be viable, the battery would have to swapped out every flight, and sent to a recharge facility at the airport, the logistics would be impossible really.

rickair7777 01-01-2020 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2948908)
The amount of Amps needed to be pushed to the aircraft for a quick charge is nothing like shore power for a boat. A valid comparison is not even possible. Next time you get a chance take a look at the power cords for the new quick charge auto facilities. Cord length is also critical. To push those kinds of AMPS cords must be kept short or have massive diameters.

Current capacity of the cord can be solved with diameter and/or materials.

That's off-the-shelf technology, heavy industry does it all the time.

The connector might have to be special. Large ships don't "plug in" to shore power, they actually hard-wire the shore power wires to the ship's electrical bus. It only takes a few minutes, but it's probably a little too technical for line use. And you need to be absolutely certain the breakers are off before you bolt a wire to a high-voltage bus :rolleyes:

Probably just need a connector with a mechanical latch-in feature and good seals. As opposed to the current 115VAC 400Hz aircraft push-in plugs, which has the same arcing potential as residential house current.

hydrostream 01-08-2020 09:41 AM

Proper insulation and cord lengths that don’t allow contact with the dock or water. Build a terminal on the dock and a switch on shore. Lights/audible warning to signal when charging.


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