Just got reported to the FAA
06-28-2020, 05:19 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
How about we make a bet?
For....let’s say....your certificate?
For....let’s say....your certificate?
I’ve done rides with 135 FAA POIs, and countless 121 checkrides. No, I do not think anyone is going to bust you on a checkride for saying you are clear of the runway as you are literally exiting the runway. At worst, it would be a debrief item.
06-28-2020, 08:23 AM
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Taxi clear of the runway unless otherwise directed by ATC. An aircraft is considered clear of the runway when all parts of the aircraft are past the runway edge and there are no restrictions to its continued movement beyond the runway holding position markings. In the absence of ATC instructions, the pilot is expected to taxi clear of the landing runway by taxiing beyond the runway holding position markings associated with the landing runway, even if that requires the aircraft to protrude into or cross another taxiway or ramp area. Once all parts of the aircraft have crossed the runway holding position markings, the pilot must hold unless further instructions have been issued by ATC.
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06-28-2020, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
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Based only on his momentum and the takeoff roll of the Bonanza and his position he was clear before the Bonanza even got to full throttle. No harm, no foul.
06-28-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I believe ATC can only do this on a forward high speed (not sure though I'm not on that side of the radio)
while I would not rat a guy out to the FAA for something like that(not by a longshot), the guy filming this was wrong as far as FAR/AIM is concerned.
moral of the story, don't post a video of you flying online unless you are willing to have every facet dissected by everyone out there.
while I would not rat a guy out to the FAA for something like that(not by a longshot), the guy filming this was wrong as far as FAR/AIM is concerned.
moral of the story, don't post a video of you flying online unless you are willing to have every facet dissected by everyone out there.
There's no regulatory allowance for pilots to do it, but it's not unreasonable. An utterly irrelevant technical violation is not necessarily an actual violation of the law, and that is established legal precedent: De Minimis
He'll get nothing worse than compliance philosophy anyway. I have no problem with him standing up to this, it's BS and waste of taxpayer dollars.
06-29-2020, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
Dude, did you even watch the video? The FAA ASI even told the Premier pilot that it was stupid and they weren’t following up any further.
I’ve done rides with 135 FAA POIs, and countless 121 checkrides. No, I do not think anyone is going to bust you on a checkride for saying you are clear of the runway as you are literally exiting the runway. At worst, it would be a debrief item.
I’ve done rides with 135 FAA POIs, and countless 121 checkrides. No, I do not think anyone is going to bust you on a checkride for saying you are clear of the runway as you are literally exiting the runway. At worst, it would be a debrief item.
06-29-2020, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
There's no regulatory allowance for pilots to do it, but it's not unreasonable. An utterly irrelevant technical violation is not necessarily an actual violation of the law, and that is established legal precedent: De Minimis
He'll get nothing worse than compliance philosophy anyway. I have no problem with him standing up to this, it's BS and waste of taxpayer dollars.
He'll get nothing worse than compliance philosophy anyway. I have no problem with him standing up to this, it's BS and waste of taxpayer dollars.
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