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Old 07-06-2020, 11:07 AM
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UN adjusts carbon offset scam for airlines

Not even going to start off pretending to be unbiased, are we?
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UN adjusts carbon offset scam for airlines

Not even going to start off pretending to be unbiased, are we?
It's not really a stretch when you're talking about the biggest global scam ever seen in the history of everything. Follow the money and you see who is getting filthy rich shuffling other people's money around on the basis of climate science that isn't actually "settled" no matter what the scammers say. 40 years ago the "settled" science told us we were headed into an ice age, but nobody was able to monetize that. Flip it around, add the ability of the internet to add false legitimacy to the scammer's message, and carefully pretend to not notice that the same people selling the scam are the ones setting themselves up as the middlemen taking their cut in the "carbon offset" market. It's unbelievably scammy, except people fell for it.

You don't have to have an inherent bias to be able to recognize a scam when it comes along. You just have to keep your eyes open and not fall for every snake oil salesman that comes along.
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It's not really a stretch when you're talking about the biggest global scam ever seen in the history of everything.
I thought COVID-19 was the biggest scam... or 9/11 being an inside job. I'm having a hard time ranking the lizard people plots in the correct order of severity.
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Look at this document. $.20 per ton of carbon is merely the trading fee... People are getting filthy rich off of making up rules and shuffling around carbon credits. Almost every paragraph in this document has a requirement for a governing body to approve something, authorize something else, license and approve "third party" inspectors (after taking their fee of course), set standards, change the standards and require re-certification (with more fees of course), etc etc. If this document showed up in your email you'd recognize it for the pyramid scheme scam that it really is, yet it's actually a real thing foisted off on the entire world. This is simply how it's being implemented in one place, and the entire document is one huge multilevel marketing scheme everyone has to participate in but has no say in who sets fees, who takes a cut, who authorizes who can play, etc.

Got a bunch of smaller participants who need to aggregate their efforts in order to qualify? 8%-10% "aggregation fee" in addition to all the other transaction fees, just for shuffling paperwork and handling approvals. That's a LOT of money moving around and going into the pockets of a very limited number of people enforcing rules nobody ever voted on and with no real oversight by elected officials.

http://www.myminnesotawoods.umn.edu/...-seq1-5-12.pdf

Scammity scam scam.
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Regardless of politics and the pros/cons of carbon offset programs, humans are causing climate change. The lingering confusion is purposeful.

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Regardless of politics and the pros/cons of carbon offset programs, humans are causing climate change.
Incorrect. It is still unknown what effect, if any, and to what degree, humans are having on the climate.

Ask yourself why the climate on Mars is also changing?
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Incorrect. It is still unknown what effect, if any, and to what degree, humans are having on the climate.

Ask yourself why the climate on Mars is also changing?
you get hacked or something? Where’s your link?
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Originally Posted by flensr View Post
Look at this document. $.20 per ton of carbon is merely the trading fee... People are getting filthy rich off of making up rules and shuffling around carbon credits. Almost every paragraph in this document has a requirement for a governing body to approve something, authorize something else, license and approve "third party" inspectors (after taking their fee of course), set standards, change the standards and require re-certification (with more fees of course), etc etc. If this document showed up in your email you'd recognize it for the pyramid scheme scam that it really is, yet it's actually a real thing foisted off on the entire world. This is simply how it's being implemented in one place, and the entire document is one huge multilevel marketing scheme everyone has to participate in but has no say in who sets fees, who takes a cut, who authorizes who can play, etc.

Got a bunch of smaller participants who need to aggregate their efforts in order to qualify? 8%-10% "aggregation fee" in addition to all the other transaction fees, just for shuffling paperwork and handling approvals. That's a LOT of money moving around and going into the pockets of a very limited number of people enforcing rules nobody ever voted on and with no real oversight by elected officials.

http://www.myminnesotawoods.umn.edu/...-seq1-5-12.pdf

Scammity scam scam.
the scam is the fact that Exxon conducted studies that identified carbon pollution as a cause of climate change in the late 70's, but chose to spread misinformation and bogus science to hide the facts and confuse the general public. you're right about there being lots of money made in regard to climate politics, but it's the oil industry that's been running the scam, not some company building wind farms. that carbon sequestration program you're referencing, which honestly doesnt seem like a scam at all from my view, is an absolute drop in the bucket compared to the corruption of the oil and gas industry
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-40-years-ago/
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Incorrect. It is still unknown what effect, if any, and to what degree, humans are having on the climate.

Ask yourself why the climate on Mars is also changing?
I lost brain cells reading this argument.

It has been demonstrated, empirically and beyond a reasonable doubt, that anthropogenic climate change exists. full stop.

the poster you responded to posted a source full of empirical evidence, and you reply with "bUt wHaT aBoUt MaRs?!?!?!"

I honestly can't tell if you're an intellectually dishonest troll or just an idiot
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