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Old 10-14-2020, 02:09 PM
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There is a high speed train at preliminary stage between DFW and Houston. Populations are 8 million and 7 million, respectively. Most of the right of way is rural: farm, ranch, and land not in production.

Last I was driving that stretch of interstate, they needed a 3rd lane and maybe a 4th lane. It is supposed to take under an hour compared to four hours driving. Considering time on a commercial airline, it would be shorter, as well.

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Given that the train would run downtown to downtown it could be faster than DFW-IAH. Problem is all those farmers and ranchers don’t want it cutting their fields in half. Having ridden trains in Europe and Japan I think there’s definitely a place for them on trips like Houston to the Metroplex but I only give it a 50/50 chance of getting going.
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There is a high speed train at preliminary stage between DFW and Houston. Populations are 8 million and 7 million, respectively. Most of the right of way is rural: farm, ranch, and land not in production.

Last I was driving that stretch of interstate, they needed a 3rd lane and maybe a 4th lane. It is supposed to take under an hour compared to four hours driving. Considering time on a commercial airline, it would be shorter, as well.

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Imho.....Texas has 1000x the probability of making it work compared to CA.

Unless all the CA transplants get their hands on the project.
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Given that the train would run downtown to downtown it could be faster than DFW-IAH. Problem is all those farmers and ranchers don’t want it cutting their fields in half. Having ridden trains in Europe and Japan I think there’s definitely a place for them on trips like Houston to the Metroplex but I only give it a 50/50 chance of getting going.
Would getting those farmers and ranchers to accept eminent domain easier and less expensive than California? Less extended litigation?
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Would getting those farmers and ranchers to accept eminent domain easier and less expensive than California? Less extended litigation?
Is this maybe why other HSR systems elevate the line...to minimize right of way impacts?
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Is this maybe why other HSR systems elevate the line...to minimize right of way impacts?
That would help with right-of-way on ag land... minimal impact. Also likely that they do that for safety reasons, livestock, vehicles, pedestrians, children, etc simply don't mix with 200mph+ trains.

But it won't help with urban NIMBYs
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Would getting those farmers and ranchers to accept eminent domain easier and less expensive than California? Less extended litigation?
Most likely. The obstructionists in CA basically want to halt all development and industrialization... they have a lot of arrows in their legal quiver and will use whichever ones seem most likely to succeed. Or simply delay, they've killed more than a few projects by dragging it out for years.

In TX, they probably just want to get paid what it's worth.
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Just a guess but maybe somebody in TX overlayed the TGV map on their state and thought....hmmm.
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Originally Posted by TransWorld View Post
There is a high speed train at preliminary stage between DFW and Houston. Populations are 8 million and 7 million, respectively. Most of the right of way is rural: farm, ranch, and land not in production.

Last I was driving that stretch of interstate, they needed a 3rd lane and maybe a 4th lane. It is supposed to take under an hour compared to four hours driving. Considering time on a commercial airline, it would be shorter, as well.

I have my opinions. What are yours?
Every time I go to DFW, which often includes trips to SA and Houston, it just amazes me how out of control the population boom is and how insufficient the roads are. There's sections that have been "under construction" going on 10 years, causing bottlenecks. Crazy stuff where highways with x amount of lanes merge down to less and every day the traffic is backed up, often in the middle of the day, not even "rush hour". My parents just moved out of SA, but it took half an hour to 45 minutes to go 2 miles to the supermarket. Just crazy stuff that defies belief IME. I could never live in any of these areas due to the toll it takes on your everyday life. Spending that much time in traffic is absurd. Anything to reduce this is good.
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It is crazy around DFW. Funny thing is a hundred years ago there was an extensive electric inter-urban streetcar system. Went to towns 50 miles away from the city centers. Sort of light rail. You can see a few streets still have a wide center median where the tracks were. There’s a neighborhood in Ft. Worth called “Stop 6.” It was the sixth stop out of Ft. Worth on one of the lines to Dallas. Going to work once or twice a month at odd hours is bearable, don’t know how the 8-5 crowd does it.
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