Hyperloop Trains
10-15-2020, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
It is crazy around DFW. Funny thing is a hundred years ago there was an extensive electric inter-urban streetcar system. Went to towns 50 miles away from the city centers. Sort of light rail. You can see a few streets still have a wide center median where the tracks were. There’s a neighborhood in Ft. Worth called “Stop 6.” It was the sixth stop out of Ft. Worth on one of the lines to Dallas. Going to work once or twice a month at odd hours is bearable, don’t know how the 8-5 crowd does it.
In SoCal too. Lots of economics and politics involved.
10-15-2020, 10:33 AM
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Just about every city in the US had an extensive streetcar network. They are, in most cases, what built them. They built lines out into the country, sold the land and provided the electricity as well. But then the government got in the way and, for years, would not let the streetcar companies raise fares above 5˘ to cover costs. Many went out of business by the 50's. GM bought up the rest and replaced them with their buses. Then we razed the neighborhoods for highways and everyone left, leaving our downtowns to rot. The damage can still be seen today.
I'm from DFW too, and the amount of highway miles built over the last 20 years is insane. It'd be nice to have some of that money put toward a better transit system, but that's not how things are funded here though. If you visit or live in Texas, every single new highway lane built from now on will be tolled.
As far as hyperloop. I'm not too worried. Perhaps resources could be put to better use for short flights. I use to work MKE-ORD all the time. While I realize, 99% of those pax were connecting at ORD, the train, the bus, and even driving that was much faster. For personal reasons, I use to travel between the two a lot, and I would never think about non-revving that, even though it was cheaper. Same goes for similar corridors.
I'm from DFW too, and the amount of highway miles built over the last 20 years is insane. It'd be nice to have some of that money put toward a better transit system, but that's not how things are funded here though. If you visit or live in Texas, every single new highway lane built from now on will be tolled.
As far as hyperloop. I'm not too worried. Perhaps resources could be put to better use for short flights. I use to work MKE-ORD all the time. While I realize, 99% of those pax were connecting at ORD, the train, the bus, and even driving that was much faster. For personal reasons, I use to travel between the two a lot, and I would never think about non-revving that, even though it was cheaper. Same goes for similar corridors.
10-15-2020, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
As far as hyperloop. I'm not too worried. Perhaps resources could be put to better use for short flights. I use to work MKE-ORD all the time. While I realize, 99% of those pax were connecting at ORD, the train, the bus, and even driving that was much faster. For personal reasons, I use to travel between the two a lot, and I would never think about non-revving that, even though it was cheaper. Same goes for similar corridors.
If you drive 2-4 hours to the hub, you then have to park, bus to terminal, do TSA (probably NOT five minutes).
10-15-2020, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Every time I go to DFW, which often includes trips to SA and Houston, it just amazes me how out of control the population boom is and how insufficient the roads are. There's sections that have been "under construction" going on 10 years, causing bottlenecks. Crazy stuff where highways with x amount of lanes merge down to less and every day the traffic is backed up, often in the middle of the day, not even "rush hour". My parents just moved out of SA, but it took half an hour to 45 minutes to go 2 miles to the supermarket. Just crazy stuff that defies belief IME. I could never live in any of these areas due to the toll it takes on your everyday life. Spending that much time in traffic is absurd. Anything to reduce this is good.
10-15-2020, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
DFW metro is adding 1 million plus per decade. No signs of slowing down. State interstates are jammed. Toll roads are better. I live in Frisco, quite a ways north of downtown Dallas. Dallas North Tollroad in gets jammed at rush hour. Evenings for symphony concerts on the weekends are not bad. South end of Frisco, grab 121/Sam Rayburn Tollroad to DFW. Not bad, even at rush hour. Secondary surface roads around Frisco (200K in population) are great. I enjoy 3 lanes each way, with right turn and double left turn lanes. Our neighborhoods are mostly new affluent houses. Median household income for Frisco is $150,000.
