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Old 01-18-2021, 12:12 PM
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Rick, you brought up antifa as a way to say appeasement worked. We aren’t allowed to disagree that appeasement works differently on different ideologies, and have to accept your assertion as fact in order to post here?

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Old 01-18-2021, 12:14 PM
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I'm only leaving this thread open because it may be useful for some people to document what happens to pilots who participate in social upheaval (of any sort). Again we are not going to discuss the merits of any ideology, only the consequences of the behavior.
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
Rick, you brought up antifa as a way to say appeasement worked. We aren’t allowed to disagree that appeasement works differently on different ideologies, and have to accept your assertion as fact in order to post here?
Apparently it's too much to have a measured discussion, so we're just not going to go there.
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Apparently it's too much to have a measured discussion, so we're just not going to go there.
it wasn’t too much. We were having a measured discussion about the fact that appeasement doesn’t work on two wildly different ideologies in the same way. I even explained why I thought so in a post you deleted. But that didn’t conform to your dictate that we must agree that the two are identical (even though you misunderstood and thought I said agenda) in order to even post here.

it’s okay to be wrong and to admit to such a thing sometimes.
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
it wasn’t too much. We were having a measured discussion about the fact that appeasement doesn’t work on two wildly different ideologies in the same way. I even explained why I thought so in a post you deleted. But that didn’t conform to your dictate that we must agree that the two are identical (even though you misunderstood and thought I said agenda) in order to even post here.

it’s okay to be wrong and to admit to such a thing sometimes.
I read the post again, and I was right the first time. It would have been fine except you had to throw in some inflammatory language about one side wanting "reform" and the other being "insane". That's just fuel for the fire. Other than that, it was fine.
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Old 01-18-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I'm only leaving this thread open because it may be useful for some people to document what happens to pilots who participate in social upheaval (of any sort). Again we are not going to discuss the merits of any ideology, only the consequences of the behavior.
that’s what I was discussing. I was talking about how appeasement doesn’t work because the ideologies differ in their fundamental goals. I wasn’t saying one ideology had more merit. Idk why you keep building these strawmen to tear down
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I read the post again, and I was right the first time. It would have been fine except you had to throw in some inflammatory language about one side wanting "reform" and the other being "insane". That's just fuel for the fire. Other than that, it was fine.
You’re back to calling them “sides.” They aren’t one side vs another side. They’re completely different on a conceptual level.

and that’s why your idea of appeasement works differently on the two
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Lets all just jump to conclusions with no consideration that Truth may be absent from both sides....

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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
You’re back to calling them “sides.” They aren’t one side vs another side. They’re completely different on a conceptual level.

and that’s why your idea of appeasement works differently on the two
In what way? My premise is that once they get it out of their system (the rioting, not necessarily the underlying motivation), that most will go home... especially if they have homes, jobs, families, etc. Could be different if they had nothing left to lose, like the Palestinians. But in the US, this kind of thing tends to blow over (60's, 70's, 90's).
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
In what way? My premise is that once they get it out of their system (the rioting, not necessarily the underlying motivation), that most will go home... especially if they have homes, jobs, families, etc. Could be different if they had nothing left to lose, like the Palestinians. But in the US, this kind of thing tends to blow over (60's, 70's, 90's).
I literally just answered you and you deleted it. I guess you’re right, we can’t have a conversation
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