Biden promises massive emission restrictions!
01-28-2021, 11:28 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
“97% of all scientists agree that man made climate change (used to be global warming) is real. Anyone who disagrees is a climate denier, is a crackpot, and needs to be shut up.”
If one goes back and looks at the scientific articles published, only one fourth of the papers say man made climate change is real. A vast majority say maybe or maybe not, science is not clear, we just don’t know, we cannot conclude anything, please give us more money to study it.
This is the truth. I have read their analysis and background material. The politicians and media have twisted it and reported the 97% number, refusing to let the other information to be aired.
NASA is now saying they predict global cooling, due to diminished sun activity, part of its normal cycle of activity. That is directly contrary to what is stated, above.
If one goes back and looks at the scientific articles published, only one fourth of the papers say man made climate change is real. A vast majority say maybe or maybe not, science is not clear, we just don’t know, we cannot conclude anything, please give us more money to study it.
This is the truth. I have read their analysis and background material. The politicians and media have twisted it and reported the 97% number, refusing to let the other information to be aired.
NASA is now saying they predict global cooling, due to diminished sun activity, part of its normal cycle of activity. That is directly contrary to what is stated, above.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...26/11/4/048002
"The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”
As for the solar minimum...
https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/2910/w...limate-change/
No or minimal effect on climate change, will only perhaps offer a brief 'cooling' offset.
01-28-2021, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Not correct.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...26/11/4/048002
"The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”
As for the solar minimum...
https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/2910/w...limate-change/
No or minimal effect on climate change, will only perhaps offer a brief 'cooling' offset.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...26/11/4/048002
"The number of papers rejecting AGW [Anthropogenic, or human-caused, Global Warming] is a miniscule proportion of the published research, with the percentage slightly decreasing over time. Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”
As for the solar minimum...
https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/2910/w...limate-change/
No or minimal effect on climate change, will only perhaps offer a brief 'cooling' offset.
The 97% in Googled articles, when you actually analyze the papers show the large majority say man made global warming is possible, but there is no conclusive proof one way or the other. It warrants further study. Please give us more money so we can further fund graduate students. These numbers get rolled up into a summary that 97% absolutely are certain of manmade global warming.
I am tired. You will not believe original sourse data facts that are shown you, so I not going to waste my time. Incidentally, my bachelors degree is a scientific degree, so I am qualified to look at the data sets and raw conclusions. Good day.
01-28-2021, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
I have spent over 2,000 hours examining raw data and analysis by many experts. They do not agree with these published articles you cite. No, I am not going to dig through everything I have read and analyzed to give you the references.
The 97% in Googled articles, when you actually analyze the papers show the large majority say man made global warming is possible, but there is no conclusive proof one way or the other. It warrants further study. Please give us more money so we can further fund graduate students. These numbers get rolled up into a summary that 97% absolutely are certain of manmade global warming.
I am tired. You will not believe original sourse data facts that are shown you, so I not going to waste my time. Incidentally, my bachelors degree is a scientific degree, so I am qualified to look at the data sets and raw conclusions. Good day.
The 97% in Googled articles, when you actually analyze the papers show the large majority say man made global warming is possible, but there is no conclusive proof one way or the other. It warrants further study. Please give us more money so we can further fund graduate students. These numbers get rolled up into a summary that 97% absolutely are certain of manmade global warming.
I am tired. You will not believe original sourse data facts that are shown you, so I not going to waste my time. Incidentally, my bachelors degree is a scientific degree, so I am qualified to look at the data sets and raw conclusions. Good day.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -Carl Sagan
01-28-2021, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Ahh so I should just believe you then heh? Take the word of an internet stranger vs. the loads of data and actual scientific experts? Hard pass, there is a mountain of evidence that says otherwise.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -Carl Sagan
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -Carl Sagan
01-30-2021, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
I speak the truth. I have better things to do than show you references for proof. If I showed you a dozen articles, would you believe me? I didn’t think so. So, I am not going to waste my time. As I said — Good day.
01-30-2021, 06:45 AM
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It's the imposition of a carbon tax worth trillions of dollars now I know that's a big number but keep up with me now it's ALWAYS about the money. You think your wife married you because she "loves"
You are you insane? Do some research dude. You think global warming is real because the "scientific community"
Said so? So much for critical thinking. Good gas water and electricity go away in less than four years I can't wait!
You are you insane? Do some research dude. You think global warming is real because the "scientific community"
Said so? So much for critical thinking. Good gas water and electricity go away in less than four years I can't wait!
01-30-2021, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
since you’re the only one speaking the truth, what is making all the scientists lie?
"Guys! I've seen the light, I have proof!"
"Uhh, can you let us see it?"
"Why would I do that?!"
01-30-2021, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
since you’re the only one speaking the truth, what is making all the scientists lie?
01-30-2021, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
I agree with many scientists who say there is no proof of man made global warming. You have fallen into the political and media trap. You believe what they say, 97% of all scientists agree there is man made global warming. You don’t hear or do not want to hear what all the other scientists say. They disagree.
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