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Mike-Air 06-03-2007 08:14 PM

Building time with Home simulator?
 
I wasn't sure where to put this post, but anyways here's my story... Basically I'm in 2nd year of my degree in a flight school and I'm trying to build more hours for obvious reasons.. I picked up a version of Microsoft's Flight Simulator X and I was just wondering if the FAA approves any amount of flight time on home simulators?

Any info helps,

TIA.

rickair7777 06-03-2007 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mike-Air (Post 174992)
I wasn't sure where to put this post, but anyways here's my story... Basically I'm in 2nd year of my degree in a flight school and I'm trying to build more hours for obvious reasons.. I picked up a version of Microsoft's Flight Simulator X and I was just wondering if the FAA approves any amount of flight time on home simulators?

Any info helps,

TIA.


Basically, no.

I think they recently have started to approve some PC-based simulators for some training, but they have to have actual airplane control and radio interfaces (not joystick & keyboard) and also have to be enclosed in a cockpit-like box. They also have to be certified, which means it would probably be expensive to buy.

MS Flight sim can be useful for practicing instrument scan and procedures AFTER you have learned the basics in a real sim or airplane. Aside from that, it's not remotely like a real airplane.

de727ups 06-03-2007 09:01 PM

PCATD's (google it) can be used for 10 hours towards an IFR rating. I think more advanced versions might be approved for more but they are very expensive.

MSFS is not approved for anything as far as the FAA is concerned. There are some things I think it does well, though.

bobloblaw 06-04-2007 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Mike-Air (Post 174992)
I wasn't sure where to put this post, but anyways here's my story... Basically I'm in 2nd year of my degree in a flight school and I'm trying to build more hours for obvious reasons.. I picked up a version of Microsoft's Flight Simulator X and I was just wondering if the FAA approves any amount of flight time on home simulators?

Any info helps,

TIA.

Yes, you can log those hours you spend flying microsoft flightsim even if you use flightsim 2004. The best thing to do is download most of the planes you dream of flying and log those hours. Don't let a single minute pass by without logging it. Once you meet the published mins for major airlines who fly those planes send resumes and a copy of your logbook showing the flightsim hours logged and you should be in like flynn. :)

CL65driver 06-04-2007 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by bobloblaw (Post 175054)
Yes, you can log those hours you spend flying microsoft flightsim even if you use flightsim 2004. The best thing to do is download most of the planes you dream of flying and log those hours. Don't let a single minute pass by without logging it. Once you meet the published mins for major airlines who fly those planes send resumes and a copy of your logbook showing the flightsim hours logged and you should be in like flynn. :)

Oh god... I'd PAY to see the looks on the HR peoples faces when they read that resume!!! :p

bobloblaw 06-04-2007 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by CL65driver (Post 175285)
Oh god... I'd PAY to see the looks on the HR peoples faces when they read that resume!!! :p

I can't tell you how many hours of flight time I log even though I am in the back of a 757 or md80 while deadheading for eagle. I figure the hours will impress somebody. As a MEI, I used to stand next to the runway and as a multi passes by I would yell something like, " Nose up a little more, or more right rudder." I always make sure to note the N-number as they go by so I can log it as instruction given. :) :)

the King 06-04-2007 02:36 PM

No freaking way...

bobloblaw 06-04-2007 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by the King (Post 175300)
No freaking way...

It's almost George Kastanza ish. I made a few mistakes in my past, like logging my first years flight time in disappearing ink. I picked the pen up at a gag shop and lost track of it. One day I needed to catch my log book up with about 500 hours and just happened to use that pen by mistake. I didn't catch the error until two years later. I was at an interview and the interviewer asked why I skipped over half the book.

rickair7777 06-04-2007 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by bobloblaw (Post 175302)
It's almost George Kastanza ish. I made a few mistakes in my past, like logging my first years flight time in disappearing ink. I picked the pen up at a gag shop and lost track of it. One day I needed to catch my log book up with about 500 hours and just happened to use that pen by mistake. I didn't catch the error until two years later. I was at an interview and the interviewer asked why I skipped over half the book.

This is a joke, riiiiiight?

fiveninerzero 06-04-2007 06:13 PM

Dude, microsoft flight simulator is an awesome training tool to practice procedural stuff, but in reality you can't get any stick and rudder skills from it because the aircraft performance is soo unrealistic. It's saving me so much money on instrument stuff though, you'd be suprised how great it is when you pull out your favorite approach and fly it on flight sim, then you go do it for real and see the simularities! You still can't count it for logging purposes though.


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