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JohnBurke 10-13-2023 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Condor73 (Post 3710072)
Hello,

I just went to check my PRD and shows employers since 2015. I thought it was only 5 years. Another lie ?

There is no lie. When you say another lie, you're implying that there was a previous lie.

Don't blame the system for your own ignorance. Have you read the regulation? If not, how can you say there's a lie?

Nuthatch 01-29-2024 04:49 PM

Slightly old thread, but directly pertains to a question I have. I just found out I can check my pilot database. The info in there is correct, except I've been flying for a foreign operator since 2009 so my emplyment history is not in there, obviously. Should I or can I even add it, and what are the ramifications? It seems they only have US operators to choose from in the dropdown menu. I am about to apply at a US company, so of course I don't want any discrepancies or anything weird in there.

JohnBurke 01-29-2024 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuthatch (Post 3760762)
Slightly old thread, but directly pertains to a question I have. I just found out I can check my pilot database. The info in there is correct, except I've been flying for a foreign operator since 2009 so my emplyment history is not in there, obviously. Should I or can I even add it, and what are the ramifications? It seems they only have US operators to choose from in the dropdown menu. I am about to apply at a US company, so of course I don't want any discrepancies or anything weird in there.

Foreign operators are not listed as applicable under 14 CFR 111, which covers the Pilot Record Database. 111.1, which details applicability, has no inclusion for foreign operators, and 111.1(c) specifically excludes foreign operators who have dealings with the US (operating in US airspace, etc). The US cannot control ir impel foreign operators to contribute to the PRD.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-G/part-111/subpart-A/section-111.1

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§ 111.1 Applicability.

(a) This part prescribes rules governing the use of the Pilot Records Database (PRD).

(b) Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section, this part applies to:

(1) Each operator that holds an air carrier or operating certificate issued in accordance with part 119 of this chapterand is authorized to conduct operations under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter.

(2) Each operator that holds management specifications for a fractional ownership program issued in accordance with subpart K of part 91 of this chapter.

(3) Each operator that holds a letter of authorization issued in accordance with § 91.147 of this chapter.

(4) Each operator that operates two or more aircraft described in paragraph (b)(4)(i) or (ii) of this section, in furtherance of or incidental to a business, solely pursuant to the general operating and flight rules in part 91 of this chapter, or that operates aircraft pursuant to a Letter of Deviation Authority issued under § 125.3 of this chapter.

(i) Standard airworthiness airplanes that require a type rating under § 61.31(a) of this chapter.

(ii) Turbine-powered rotorcraft.

(5) Each entity that conducts public aircraft operations as defined in 49 U.S.C. 40102(a)(41) on a flight that meets the qualification criteria for public aircraft status in 49 U.S.C. 40125, unless the entity is any branch of the United States Armed Forces, National Guard, or reserve component of the Armed Forces.

(6) Each trustee in bankruptcy of any operator or entity described in this paragraph, subject to the following criteria:

(i) If any operator subject to the requirements of this subpart files a petition for protection under the Federal bankruptcy laws, the trustee appointed by the bankruptcy court must comply with the requirements of subparts Aand C of this part.

(ii) The operator may delegate its authority to the trustee appointed by the bankruptcy court to access the PRD on its behalf in accordance with § 111.20 or the trustee may submit an application to the FAA requesting access to the PRD consistent with the requirements of § 111.15.

(7) Each person that submits or is identified on the application described in § 111.15 and is approved by the Administrator to access the PRD.

(8) Each person who is employed as a pilot by, or is seeking employment as a pilot with, an operator subject to the applicability of this part.

(c) This part does not apply to foreign air carriers or operators subject to part 375 of this title.


14 CFR 375 intro, if interested:

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-II/subchapter-D/part-375/subpart-A

If operators are not listed in the drop-down menu, you can still add operators to the list. The FAA's frequently asked questions list will answer most of what you want to know, including how to add additional operators that aren't in the drop-down menu.

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/regulations_policies/pilot_records_database/PRD_Frequently_Asked_Questions.pdf


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I cannot find my employer in the Employer list. How do I add an employer who is not listed?

To add an employer, click the “Add New Employer” button and scroll below the Employer Records table and locate the Add/Edit Employer section. Enter the mandatory fields of “Employer”, “Contact First Name”, and “Contact Last Name”. An address or an email or a telephone number is also required. When finished, click the “Save” button. A dialog box will appear asking you to certify you are reporting complete information to the PRD regarding your current employer and all previous employers for whom you have served in a pilot position. You consent and authorize the current and previous employers to release records pertaining to you as required in accordance with Title 49 United States Code 44703(h) to the air carrier(s)/operator(s) selected. Click the “Agree” button if you consent and authorize. A dialog box will display “Employer successfully added”. Click the “OK” button. The employer will display in the Employer Records table.


tallpilot 01-30-2024 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nuthatch (Post 3760762)
Slightly old thread, but directly pertains to a question I have. I just found out I can check my pilot database. The info in there is correct, except I've been flying for a foreign operator since 2009 so my emplyment history is not in there, obviously. Should I or can I even add it, and what are the ramifications? It seems they only have US operators to choose from in the dropdown menu. I am about to apply at a US company, so of course I don't want any discrepancies or anything weird in there.

The airline you are applying to will not look at your PRD until you get a CJO. Once you have that in hand then ask them if they would like you to add the foreign carrier to your employment history.

Nuthatch 01-30-2024 07:06 AM

Excellent, thank you guys for the quick responses, that is very helpful.


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