Where My Doomers At?
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You're just a tough liberal to figure out. Ukraine is where it is today because of sanctions against Russia from the west, and a limitless supply of missiles, guns, ammo, etc, to use against Russia. Somehow to you, we are Putin sympathizers simply because we don't want to send troops and money to Ukraine.
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You're just a tough liberal to figure out. Ukraine is where it is today because of sanctions against Russia from the west, and a limitless supply of missiles, guns, ammo, etc, to use against Russia. Somehow to you, we are Putin sympathizers simply because we don't want to send troops and money to Ukraine.
You and I agree that sitting on our hands would have resulted in the Russians rolling unchecked through non-Nato Eastern Europe. The ramifications of that would have been disastrous. Not only for the economy, but for the US as a world leader.
I don't see how appeasement isn't anything but Putin sympathizing. I'm glad we don't have to live in that reality.
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Such a shame you don't give any credit to the Ukrainian people who are courageously defending their homeland.
You and I agree that sitting on our hands would have resulted in the Russians rolling unchecked through non-Nato Eastern Europe. The ramifications of that would have been disastrous. Not only for the economy, but for the US as a world leader.
I don't see how appeasement isn't anything but Putin sympathizing. I'm glad we don't have to live in that reality.
You and I agree that sitting on our hands would have resulted in the Russians rolling unchecked through non-Nato Eastern Europe. The ramifications of that would have been disastrous. Not only for the economy, but for the US as a world leader.
I don't see how appeasement isn't anything but Putin sympathizing. I'm glad we don't have to live in that reality.
Not wanting to get involved does not mean I am sympathizing with Putin. Personally I think it's a dumb move on his end that was not thought out well and very poorly executed. I don't care about Putin, nor do I care about Zelensky. Lastly, "US" and "world leader" don't go hand in hand when Biden is President.
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PRDU's thoughts on Asia are whatever MSM's narrative is. He will put their flag on his twitter bio and be hawkish on whatever the next quagmire is. Most people in America don't give a squat about the Russian speaking, Eastern Ukrainian border. They care more about what happens in this country and our own border. But hey, what is a few hundred billion for one of the most corrupt nations in the world. Maybe we shouldn't be paying for Ukranian pensions and funding Ukranian Oligarch's. If you don't think they are skimming the money we are sending over there you are naive. Oh, by the way, how much have NATO countries contributed to this effort???? Next to nothing compared to us. I am sure when you ask them if they are sympathetic to the Ukranian people but they cannot even pay for their electricity bill. We simply don't have the money to do this anymore PRDU.
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Thank God for 2A huh? It's nice having several weapons in the closet isn't it? I mean what party would want to limit Ukraine, or any other Countries, ability to defend itself from threats both foreign and domestic.
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To all those Putin sympathizers out there... where'd you go?
In February, you were all screaming from the rooftops about how we should all stand down and let the unstoppable juggernaut that is the Red Army take whatever it pleases. Remember when Excargodog was like, "I'm a big bad military man, and I say Kiev will be sacked in a matter of days!" That was funny. What a jokester.
Remember when you all said oil was going to $200 a barrel? Still waiting.
Meanwhile the Ukrainian Army has repulsed the Russians back to the border on the northern front. If only Putin could be as embarrassed as the prognosticators of APC.
And the lesson is... don't get your news from Russian-sponsored sources.
In February, you were all screaming from the rooftops about how we should all stand down and let the unstoppable juggernaut that is the Red Army take whatever it pleases. Remember when Excargodog was like, "I'm a big bad military man, and I say Kiev will be sacked in a matter of days!" That was funny. What a jokester.
Remember when you all said oil was going to $200 a barrel? Still waiting.
Meanwhile the Ukrainian Army has repulsed the Russians back to the border on the northern front. If only Putin could be as embarrassed as the prognosticators of APC.
And the lesson is... don't get your news from Russian-sponsored sources.
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All is not lost in Europe, despite Germany being dumb...
https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/0...ture-pub-86468
https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/0...ture-pub-86468