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SWAjet 01-04-2008 12:27 PM

Terrible chopper landing (video)
 
http://break.com/index/helicopter-pi...-landings.html

NYCPilot 01-04-2008 12:36 PM

Oh crap...

Bri85 01-04-2008 01:27 PM

the whole approach didnt seem right at all, more info..

bravo24 01-04-2008 02:01 PM

An autorotation gone bad?

MoosePileit 01-04-2008 03:42 PM

Vortex Ring State is my guess as a non rotorhead but a wannabe...

NYCPilot 01-04-2008 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by MoosePileit (Post 292878)
Vortex Ring State is my guess as a non rotorhead but a wannabe...


For thos who aren't familiar with this term:

Wikipedia

In typical flight, the rotor disc directs the airflow downwards, creating lift. A vortex ring state (VRS), though, involves a toroid-shaped path of airflow circumscribing the blade disc, as the airflow moves down through the disc, then outward, and then down through the top again. This re-circulation of flow can negate much of the lifting force and cause a catastrophic loss of altitude.

"Vortex Ring State", also known as settling with power is a hazardous condition encountered in helicopter flight. It occurs when the helicopter has three things occurring; a rate of descent greater than 300 feet per minute, an airspeed slower than effective translational lift, and the helicopter is using more than 20% of its available power.A helicopter typically induces a vortex ring state by descending into its own downwash. This condition can be corrected by moving the cyclic forward, which controls the pitch angle of the rotor blade, slightly pitching nose down, and establishing forward flight. The aircraft will fly into "clean air", and will be able to regain lift.

A clear understanding of this condition is essential for helicopter pilots to avoid danger.

On a fast descent, no vortex will form because the vertical airspeed is faster than the recirculation speed - although rapid descent through one's own downwash is itself a highly dangerous maneuver.
With high airspeed, no vortex will form because the translational airflow is faster than the recirculation speed.

FlyArmy 01-04-2008 09:22 PM

I'm no expert but it looked like he ran out of collective in an auto similar to this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyhGZzxjiU8 but from the video it was kind of difficult to really tell. It looks like he pulled too much collective too high and had nothing left towards the bottom to stop his rate of descent. That's just my guess though for whatever that's worth.


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