Crazy pilot in ROA?
Any word on what this guy was up to circling for hours? A flight attendant told me he was talking on the radio like he was gonna kill himself?
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Originally Posted by ksatflyer
(Post 446312)
Any word on what this guy was up to circling for hours? A flight attendant told me he was talking on the radio like he was gonna kill himself?
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Now how would an FA know what the guy was saying on the radio???:confused:
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Originally Posted by ksatflyer
(Post 446312)
Any word on what this guy was up to circling for hours? A flight attendant told me he was talking on the radio like he was gonna kill himself?
ERAU had an instructor steal a seminole and commited suicide with it after doing multiple traffic patterns (1997 as I recall). Very sad indeed. |
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 446343)
Rule of thumb: only believe about a third of what a flight attendant tells you.:D
TransMach |
Originally Posted by Clue32
(Post 446608)
Glad he landed without incident and very thankful he decided not to plow into the mall.
ERAU had an instructor steal a seminole and commited suicide with it after doing multiple traffic patterns (1997 as I recall). Very sad indeed. |
Originally Posted by kansas
(Post 446640)
Was that the UND incident?
NTSB Identification: MIA98FA239 . The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Records Management Division 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation Accident occurred Sunday, September 06, 1998 in DAYTONA BEACH, FL Probable Cause Approval Date: 2/16/2001 Aircraft: Piper PA-44-180, registration: N922ER Injuries: 1 Fatal. The pilot gained unauthorized access to the aircraft and departed the airport followed a short time later by a request to ATC for an ILS approach to runway 7 left. As the flight approached the runway it was observed at a high altitude and when questioned if he could get down and land, the pilot reported 'this will be my final landing.' Witnesses observed the aircraft fly over the end of the runway at about 600 feet and then descend in a nose low attitude until impact with the runway. Engine power was observed to go to full power as the aircraft descended. The pilot was observed to have consumed alcohol beverages prior to the accident and was found to have a alcohol level of .15 g/dl in the liver. The pilot left a note stating 'I do not want to live.' The Medical Examiners Office ruled the manner of death as suicide. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: The pilot's use of the aircraft to commit suicide. |
Looks like it was ERAU and UND:
HISTORY OF FLIGHT On October 2, 2000, at 1933 mountain daylight time (mdt), a Piper PA-44-180, N294ND, owned and operated by the University of North Dakota and piloted by a commercial pilot, was destroyed during an in-flight collision with runway 32 (8,701 feet by 150 feet, dry/concrete) at the Rapid City Regional Airport, Rapid City, South Dakota. There was a post-impact explosion and fire. The airplane had been conducting touch and go operations on runway 32 prior to the accident. Visual metrological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The personal flight was operating under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91 without a flight plan. The commercial pilot, the sole occupant on the airplane, sustained fatal injuries. The flight departed Custer State Park Airport (3V0), Fairburn, South Dakota, at an undetermined time. A witness observed the accident airplane land at 3V0 about 1800. The accident pilot told the witness that he had flown from Nebraska and was thinking about flying to Denver that evening. After a few minutes of conversation, the accident pilot stated to the witness that he was thinking about flying by Mount Rushmore and wanted to know if there were any flight restrictions over the monument. The witness told the accident pilot that there were altitude restrictions over the monument and discussed specific details on how to depart from the 3V0. The witness stated that the accident airplane and pilot were still at 3V0 when he departed after 1830. According to a transcript of Air Traffic Control (ATC) communications between the accident airplane (N294ND) and the Rapid City Regional Airport (RAP) local controller (LC), the accident airplane approached RAP from the southwest. The communications between N294ND and the RAP LC were transcribed as follows: 1852:14 N294ND rapid city tower seminole two niner four november delta out of six thousand five hundred for stop and go's seven to---the---west 1852:28 LC (unintelligible) two niner four november delta rapid city tower runway three two cleared to land win---correction cleared for the option wind zero three zero at eight 1852:34 N294ND cleared for the option four november delta thank you 1856:47 LC four november delta can make left closed traffic 1856:50 N294ND roger four november delta 1858:24 LC four november delta runway three two cleared for the option traffic bonanza on the go be right turn 1859:29 N294ND kay traffic in sight cleared for the option four november delta 1901:02 LC four november delta make right traffic this pass traffic cessna four miles northwest be entering left downwind 1901:08 N249ND roger right traffic four november delta 1901:42 N249ND four november delta we can we'll make it a tight one this time 1901:47 LC four november delta roger cleared for the option 1901:49 N249ND cleared for the option four november delta 1904:35 N294ND and four november delta did you want me on left traffic again 1904:38 LC four november delta your choice this pass left or right traffic is approved 1904:42 N294ND kay i guess we'll go left traffic four november delta 1904:45 LC roger and squawk and maintain v f r 1904:47 N294ND okay v f r four november delta 1905:58 LC four november delta is cleared for the option wind zero two zero at eight 1906:01 N294ND cleared for the option four november delta 1910:40 LC four november delta is cleared for the option 1910:42 N294ND cleared for the option four november delta 1910:53 N294ND how late is ah tower open till tonight 1910:55 LC open till ten 1914:49 N294ND and four november delta are we clear 1914:51 LC four november delta is cleared for the option 1914:54 N294ND cleared for the option four november delta 1918:37 LC four november delta's cleared for the option wind zero two zero at eight 1918:40 N294ND four november delta cleared for the option thank you 1921:32 N294ND and for four november delta do you have ah a second to take down a phone number really quick 1921:39 LC go ahead 1921:41 N294ND it is one eight hundred three four four zero three one four and that's ah u n d flight operations 1921:53 LC roger we got one eight hundred three four four zero three one four 1921:57 N294ND roger four november delta and ah you don't need to use it 1922:03 N294ND yet 1922:04 LC roger 1925:13 N294ND so it looks like about one more option then ah full stop for four november delta 1925:18 LC four november delta roger 1926:32 LC four november delta is cleared for the option wind zero two zero at eight 1926:36 N294ND cleared for the option for four november delta 1930:35 N294ND for four november delta you still have that phone number 1930:37 LC affirm 1930:39 N294ND kay four november delta after all this ah that's the people that you can contact at u n d um and we'll be full stop this time and ah 1931:01 N294ND and four november delta still cleared to land right 1931:03 LC four november delta is cleared to land and what did you want me to tell em when i call em 1931:09 N294ND stand by four november delta 1932:06 N294ND okay for four november delta uh 1932:14 N294ND yea standby 1932:18 N294ND for four november delta we've got ah thirty gallons a fuel on board one soul on board and my name is bob thompsen and if you can give them a call at that one eight hundred number and let them know it's ah where i'm at and also if you could tell my family and friends that i love them very much 1932:44 N294ND my name again is bob thompsen 1932:47 LC you just ah were you going to depart out of here or stay the night 1932:49 N294ND um i'll stay the night 1932:51 LC roger we'll let em know 1932:55 N294ND and ah it be a good idea to get ah airport rescue and fire fighting out here too please 1933:02 LC four november delta are you declaring an emergency 1933:13 LC four november delta tower 1933:20 LC two niner four november delta rapid city tower 1933:26 N294ND (unintelligible) According to a written statement provided by the ATC controller who was working at the time of the accident, the airplane had been conducting touch and go maneuvers prior to the accident. The controller stated that the pilot requested a full stop landing and on approach, "[the pilot] proceeded to level off at about 100 [feet above ground level] on short final and increase his speed, on the go. Shortly past A4 intersection, the pilot pulled nearly straight up, appearing to stall out around 1,000 ft agl[,] coming down at a steep angle and crashing just past A3 intersection." PERSONNEL INFORMATION According to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) records, the pilot was the holder of a commercial pilot certificate with ratings for airplane single-engine land, airplane multi-engine land, and instrument airplane operations. The pilot was also the holder of a certified flight instructor (CFI) certificate with ratings for airplane single-engine, airplane multi-engine, and instrument airplane operations. FAA records show the pilot's last medical examination date was December 17, 1999, and the pilot was issued a first-class medical certificate with the limitation, "Must wear corrective lenses". According to the pilot's flight logbook and University of North Dakota flight records, the pilot had accumulated a total time of 1,203.3 flight hours as of his last flight record, dated September 30, 2000. As of the last fight record, the pilot had logged 969.6 hours of flight time in single-engine airplanes and 233.7 hours in multiengine airplanes. The pilot satisfied the requirements of a biennial flight review on December 13, 1999, when he satisfactorily completed a FAA checkride for an additional CFI rating. AIRCRAFT INFORMATION The aircraft was a Piper PA-44-180, N294ND, serial number 4496029. The Piper PA-44-180 is a production built, two engine, low wing monoplane of all metal construction, equipped with a retractable landing gear and controllable pitch propellers. According to FAA records, the airplane was issued a Standard Airworthiness Certificate on December 18, 1999. According to the airplane's service records, the last aircraft phase inspection was completed on September 21, 2000, at 598.3 total hours. According to the service records, the airplane had accumulated a total-time of 652.7 hours on October 2, 2000. The left engine was a Textron Lycoming O-360-A1H6, serial number L3718336A, and had accumulated a total-time of 652.7 hours on October 2, 2000. The right engine was a Textron Lycoming LO-360-A1H6, serial number L61271A, and had accumulated a total-time of 652.7 hours on October 2, 2000. METEOROLOGICAL INFORMATION An automated surface observing system (ASOS) located at the Rapid City Regional Airport reported the weather three minutes prior to the accident as: Observation Time: 1930 mdt Wind: 020-degrees at 5 knots Visibility: 10 statute miles Sky Condition: Sky clear Temperature: 11-degrees Celsius Dew Point: 04-degrees Celsius Pressure: 29.93 inches of mercury WRECKAGE AND IMPACT INFORMATION The National Transportation Safety Board's (NTSB) on-scene investigation began on October 3, 2000. The aircraft was recovered from the accident site prior to the arrival of the NTSB investigator and was positioned behind a hangar located at the Rapid City Regional Airport. Flight control continuity was verified for the aileron, elevator, and rudder control systems. Both left and right crankshaft flanges were broken loose from their respective crankshafts. The breaks had signatures consistent with torsional overload failure. Both left and right propeller hubs, including all propeller blades, were separated from their respective engines. All propeller blades had chordwise scratching, S-shape bending, and leading edge gouges. MEDICAL AND PATHOLOGICAL INFORMATION An autopsy was performed on the pilot at the Clinical Laboratory of the Black Hills, Rapid City, South Dakota, on October 3, 2000. A Forensic Toxicology Fatal Accident Report was prepared by the FAA Civil Aeromedical Institute, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The toxicology results for the pilot were: * No Carbon Monoxide detected in Blood * No Cyanide detected in Blood * No Ethanol detected in Vitreous * No Drugs detected in Blood ADDITIONAL DATA/INFORMATION According to an Investigation Report prepared by the Pennington County Sheriff's Office, the pilot's cause of death was, "...blunt force trauma due to an airplane crash with the manner of death as suicide." Parties to the investigation included the Federal Aviation Administration, University of North Dakota, The New Piper Aircraft Company, and Textron Lycoming. |
That last transcript was chilling. Can you imagine being the controller? wow..
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Originally Posted by Clue32
(Post 446608)
Glad he landed without incident and very thankful he decided not to plow into the mall.
ERAU had an instructor steal a seminole and commited suicide with it after doing multiple traffic patterns (1997 as I recall). Very sad indeed. not soon after that the ERAU instructor event happened ('98) followed by the French Connection (mudry aviation CAP10 I took a ride in) collided over the runway at flagler while in practice for an airshow ('00). A little before that time a PhilAir twin crashed just short of flagler, killing two.... another two people died in the pattern at flagler in a gyrocopter. Gus Wing at Deland died when the twin otter cut off his legs while he was skydiving, and then an MU-2 spun around the flagler area killing two. Before the PE midair there was another midair over EVB another 152 fatal crash at EVB 8KCAB fatal crash EVB ('98) 152 fatal DAB (99) 310Q fatal around DAB ('99) Bushby II fatal DAB ('99) ERAU/PE midair over DED ('99) Skyraider II fatar EVB ('01) Bell 206 fatal EVB ('02) 172N fatal Flagler (XFL) ('02) PA46-500 fatal DAB ('03) gyrocopter student was decapitated at flagler, the instructor lost two fingers (I see him around every now and again) ('04) 152 fatal DED ('04) Bell 47 fatal XFL ('04) BE-76 fatal DAB ('06) BE-95C55 fatal DAB (07) Tempco GC1B fatal EVB (07) That's a bunch of aviation deaths in a 20 mile radius within 10 years! Kind of chilling!! |
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