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resetjet 09-02-2008 06:56 PM

F/A photographed in Captain's seat in flight
 
LIVENEWS.com.au > National > Jetstar investigates stewardess posing as pilot

Wasn't really sure where to post this.

It does lead me to think about f/a's occupying the flight deck when a crewmember is in the lav. I personally would not let them occupy the left seat if I was flying but what are the actual regs?

The Juice 09-02-2008 07:01 PM

Once again the public is full of morons who will take this the wrong way. The article wasn't about the FA in the seat but that the CA was not in it. As stated, CA's have to use the bathroom and a FA will come up front.

Also, what about that other thing, what's it called....oh yeah a First Officer, I bet they could handle things and respond to ATC.

MatchPoint 09-02-2008 07:05 PM

Yes the FA should not be in the seat but this is being blown way out of proportion. The person who posted these pictures obviously didn’t know the windfall this could/will create.

Quote: "several risks involved if the pilot is not in the control seat, including the possibility of missing urgent instructions from air traffic control."

LOL! So there wasn't another pilot up there? Ignorance...........

contrails 09-02-2008 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by resetjet (Post 454592)
LIVENEWS.com.au > National > Jetstar investigates stewardess posing as pilot

Wasn't really sure where to post this.

It does lead me to think about f/a's occupying the flight deck when a crewmember is in the lav. I personally would not let them occupy the left seat if I was flying but what are the actual regs?

In some cockpits they'd have to be standing hunched over in the doorway if they don't take a seat. I think it's better if they just sit down as long as the seat is moved all the way back and sideways so there is enough room to easily get into the chair.

I certainly know which I've seen on the line 100% of the time.

resetjet 09-02-2008 07:14 PM

I normally make them stand by the door looking out the peephole.

Technically it would be rather difficult to have a conversation anyway above FL250. I guess it all depends on how strict the capt. is :)

surfer1212 09-02-2008 07:19 PM

This also happened in Australia in an Aussie airline. Their regs might be different.

MatchPoint 09-02-2008 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 454607)
In some cockpits they'd have to be standing hunched over in the doorway if they don't take a seat. I think it's better if they just sit down as long as the seat is moved all the way back and sideways so there is enough room to easily get into the chair.

I certainly know which I've seen on the line 100% of the time.

Yes, as long as they don’t touch anything and can easily get up and out then I personally see no problem.

Plus if she’s HOT then :D………………………………………..sorry APC almost violated the TOS. :rolleyes:

USMCFLYR 09-02-2008 07:35 PM

Read some of the comments from that **news** site. And you wonder where the public gets such ideas and why they seem to have such little respect for the profession:

"Gotta agree with you, ****. It's just a pretty girl sitting in a seat. So what? The planes today practically fly themselves, don't they? I would bet we don't even need pilots in the planes anymore. Probably safer to let the computers take off, fly and land the planes. They don't need sleep, they don't drink and they can keep their hands off the stewardesses."

This second quote sounds like a script from a bad aviation movie:

"It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye. It was less than 15 years ago that an Airbus A310 crashed on a flight from Moscow to Hong Kong when the captain's son was sitting in the captain's seat, the plane got out of control, and the captain was unable to take his seat due to the G forces. Everyone onboard died."

USMCFLYR

tpersuit 09-02-2008 07:55 PM

Our FA's always sit in the empty seat, due to our ops when a crew member leaves. Recently, they now need to make sure they are buckled for their own safety and can even put on the headset to communicate better with us.

They may not know too much about flying the plane, but it doesn't hurt to have a second pair of ears and eyes, not to mention to keep them safe just in case you hit a nasty bump.

rickair7777 09-02-2008 07:56 PM

Our SOP says no FAs in the pilot seats, they have to stand.


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