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Old 11-04-2008, 09:04 AM
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In one of my aviation safety courses, we are studying Comair 5191 and preparing a presentation to give to Air Wisconsin and maybe even the NTSB about eliminating various links in the chain of events that lead up to the crash. Part of our presentation will be a filmed recreation of the accident in one of the university's 727 simulators.

Obviously, this will require a bit of number crunching to transfer the V-Speeds, weights, etc. over from a CRJ-100 to a 727, and I was hoping some of the 100 guys out there could share what takeoff weight would likely be for a full flight (47 pax plus 3 crew) from LEX to ATL, V-Speeds, power settings, flaps, and anything that would be useful when it comes to takeoff - you get the idea.

I assure you that this is strictly for use in our presentation, and you may PM me the information if you feel it would be more secure to do so.

Thank you in advance for your help
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Try about 49,5000 lbs, Flaps 20, V1 and Vr about 135, and power setting 91%. Seems about right for LEX.
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Originally Posted by atlmsl View Post
Try about 49,5000 lbs, Flaps 20, V1 and Vr about 135, and power setting 91%. Seems about right for LEX.
Thanks. Just for the sake of comparison, does 44,000 sound about right for empty weight?
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:19 PM
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44k thats min zero fuel weight oh and Prof. Young's class is always a good time
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MAX ZFW not min?
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Originally Posted by Planespotta View Post
Thanks. Just for the sake of comparison, does 44,000 sound about right for empty weight?
IIRC empty weight for the CRJ fleet at Comair averaged around 38,000# or somewhere around there. It's been a couple of months since my furlough, so the numbers are starting to slide for me. 44,000# is max ZFW, 47,000# is max landing weight. My guess with 50 pax at LEX and fuel to ATL is somewhere between 49,000 and 51,000# depending on bags, temp and fuel burn.
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I would like to thank everybody who responded for going out of their way to help! We ran the numbers, and the simulation (I got to fly right seat ) went exactly as we hoped it would
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I'd say the best lesson was the unusual attitude's lesson in the sim. Didn't roll or loop too badly!
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Originally Posted by bdowd View Post
44k thats min zero fuel weight oh and Prof. Young's class is always a good time
Hey Hey, look who joined the forums...
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer View Post
I'd say the best lesson was the unusual attitude's lesson in the sim. Didn't roll or loop too badly!
Unless you have Joe your Sr year... He left the sim when we were doing unusual attitudes, and just told us to have fun...
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