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joel payne 03-07-2009 06:18 PM

Concorde descent & landing
 
A 10 minute video of old "droop snoot". I love the remark about slowing through Mach 1.95

Shortcut to: Aviation Video: Concorde Descend and Landing (cockpit) | Patrick's Aviation

UAL T38 Phlyer 03-08-2009 03:43 PM

That is Really Cool
 
Awesome. Professionally filmed, and a great airplane.

KC10 FATboy 03-08-2009 05:54 PM

Since I am on dialup right now, I can't view this movie. However, if you go to YouTube and search for Concorde, there are a series of videos that were made and show what it is like to fly the Concorde to NYC. It is a British Airway jet and they have cameras installed throughout the cockpit. The Captain does most of the talking (I think he was an instructor) and it shows all phases of flights, including the FE running abnormal checklists.

After seeing those videos I realized, flying the Concorde seemed more like flying the Space Shuttle than an airliner.

forumname 03-08-2009 07:21 PM

Interesting to watch the other videos on the Concorde as well.

I didn't know the Concorde had the ability to "supercruise".

TPROP4ever 03-08-2009 09:50 PM

Truly amazing to watch, too bad the days of SST are gone. The Concorde was one of the most magnificent birds to ever grace the sky...

VAviator 03-09-2009 07:51 AM

great video, very well done. i just watched the takeoff one as well. the FE goes through the fuel system checklist for takeoff at the beginning - and some people think twin cessnas are complicated, geez! anyone know what Vr typically was for that bird?

Aviation Video: Concorde Take Off (Cockpit) | Patrick's Aviation

(check out the A-10 too close for comfort, too. warning, some foul language in that one, but well deserved!)

forumname 03-09-2009 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by VAviator (Post 575165)
great video, very well done. i just watched the takeoff one as well. the FE goes through the fuel system checklist for takeoff at the beginning - and some people think twin cessnas are complicated,

True, I remember studying that whole CG shift/fuel transfer thing that the Concorde and the B-58 Hustler had to do. But good grief, how many fuel tanks did the Concorde have?

KC10 FATboy 03-09-2009 07:09 PM

Here is the link to the BBC TV special on flying the Concorde. The videos are broken into several segments. In my related videos section, I see all the other videos.

YouTube - Concorde Take Off (Cockpit)

-Fatty

mmaviator 03-10-2009 05:12 AM

The pilot in the first video, the older guy looks like the one that came to the flight school I was teaching at. This guy flew the concorde no joke. Nice videos.


By the way, anyone know what kind of fuel flow occurs during TO and Cruise?

WalkOfShame 03-10-2009 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 575672)
The pilot in the first video, the older guy looks like the one that came to the flight school I was teaching at. This guy flew the concorde no joke. Nice videos.


By the way, anyone know what kind of fuel flow occurs during TO and Cruise?


I beileve in this video (Aviation Video: Concorde Acceleration 0.90 mach to 1.7 mach (cockpit) | Patrick's Aviation) the captain said something around 14 tons (!) per hour with afterburners and that gets cut in half during cruise. I don't know about takeoff.

Tantalum 03-10-2009 07:20 AM

Does anyone know the V-speeds? Back when FS had the Concorde I never seemed to get it right - oh well, the real thing is much cooler anyway.

I thought it was neat how they use reverse thrust to slow the plane during descent - I did a little research and found that the Trident does this, as doe the IL-86.

UAL T38 Phlyer 03-10-2009 07:25 AM

Sounds Low to me...
 
The 747-400 burns about 30 tons an hour at brake-release (total; about 15k per engine).

The F-4 burns 50 tons an hour in afterburner, total (98,500 lbs).

The T-38 burns 10 tons an hour in burner.

The Olympus engine was 32,000 lbs of thrust dry, and 38,000 in burner (not much extra, according to Wikipedia) which would make it slightly more efficient than the F-4 or T-38, but I would guess each engine would burn about 30 tons an hour in burner, and about 6-7 tons in cruise.

Maybe he said 140 tons an hour?

WalkOfShame 03-10-2009 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 575752)
The 747-400 burns about 30 tons an hour at brake-release (total; about 15k per engine).

The F-4 burns 50 tons an hour in afterburner, total (98,500 lbs).

The T-38 burns 10 tons an hour in burner.

The Olympus engine was 32,000 lbs of thrust dry, and 38,000 in burner (not much extra, according to Wikipedia) which would make it slightly more efficient than the F-4 or T-38, but I would guess each engine would burn about 30 tons an hour in burner, and about 6-7 tons in cruise.

Maybe he said 140 tons an hour?

Yeah I don't know. He could've said 40 tons per hour. It was quick and I didn't really catch it that well.

joel payne 03-10-2009 06:02 PM

Concorde
 

Originally Posted by Tantalum (Post 575750)
Does anyone know the V-speeds? Back when FS had the Concorde I never seemed to get it right - oh well, the real thing is much cooler anyway.

I thought it was neat how they use reverse thrust to slow the plane during descent - I did a little research and found that the Trident does this, as doe the IL-86.

Back in the "old days" the DC-8 also used reverse for expedited descents. In fact there was a training incident where a DC-8 F/O was in training for B-727 CA. After returning from some touch and goes at an outlying field, ATC asked for an expedited descent. Before the instructor realized it, the trainee had put all 3 engines in reverse. Problem was, 2 of them stuck there. Uneventful landing made on remaining engine and the other 2 reverser's stowed on touch down. He spent a long time living that one down.

Scooter2525 03-13-2009 08:53 PM

I belive the c-17 also uses it for expedited descents. Pretty cool stuff!


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