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Old 06-09-2006, 06:21 AM
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Let's say you're flying a King Air Super 200- What endorsements do you need to log SIC time? Complex? High Altitude? High Performance? Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:28 AM
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I believe it is a single pilot aircraft (could be mistaken), so in order to log SIC time it would have to be operated under part 135 at a company with op specs requiring a SIC. Otherwise, you can't legally log SIC.
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Old 06-09-2006, 07:27 AM
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I think I found my answer. (Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.) If flying under part 91, you can fly pax single pilot. You can log SIC time if all of the endorsments I listed in my previous post are attained. If under 135, you have to have an SIC to fly under IFR. So as far as endorsments go with 135, I'm not sure. Thanks for the response.
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Old 06-09-2006, 10:19 AM
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Under part 91, you can't log SIC in the B200 no matter how hard you try. There are some folks that will tell you if one of you is under the hood, blah blah blah. It is a single pilot airplane that doesn't seat more than 9 pax. There isn't even a civilian type rating for the airplane, so the PIC won't have a 'sic required' restriction. Under 135, you are required to get SIC training followed by an SIC checkride. Without said training and checkride, you are illegal to operate any control, including radios and flaps. If your company doesn't operate under the autopilot exemption, then they will have to have a SIC and should give you the training required. NOW, all that said, if you are part 91, and you are the sole manipulator of the controls, you can log PIC if you have a multi-engine rating, with the high perf, complex, and high alt endorsements. I guess there are even scenarios that would allow you to fly the airplane and log PIC in a 'training' exercise without the endorsements. You'll have to decide what to do. You can log whatever you want. The only time you can apply toward any certificate, rating, or currency in that airplane is as listed. Anyone else want to tell me stuff I missed?
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You can log PIC and Dual Received if the other pilot is an MEI and logs it as Dual Given (assuming you have the necessary ratings/endorsements to act as PIC)
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Awesome... Thanks guys.
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Old 06-10-2006, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iflyjets4food
There isn't even a civilian type rating for the airplane, so the PIC won't have a 'sic required' restriction.
Actually there is a civilian type rating for the BE-200 (I have one) as some are certified above 12,500.
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I don't beleive you need a high altitude endorsment...just complex and high perf. Whats the King Air 200's ceilings? I know you don't need on for the BE1900 or the BE90's....
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The 100 is certified to like FL290, and it's the dog of the family. I'm pretty sure the 200 can go higher.
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Originally Posted by rightseater
I don't beleive you need a high altitude endorsment...just complex and high perf. Whats the King Air 200's ceilings? I know you don't need on for the BE1900 or the BE90's....

It's been 2 years since I did ground school on the 200, but I believe the ceiling is 350. Remember, the high altitude endorsement is for those with a service ceiling or max operating altitude above 250. This would include the 90 (or at least the 90s I've flown as they were certified to 290). The exemption comes when operating under part 135 or 121 because the training program counts for the training required for the high altitude endorsement.
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