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Winged Wheeler 08-12-2009 03:20 PM

Well that's it, the science is settled...
 
If the feds could tax stupidity, Debbie Stabenow could balance the treasurie's books:

DETNEWS | Weblogs | Henry Payne's Sketchbook

Detroit, Mich. - Michigan just experienced its coldest July on record; global temperatures haven't risen in more than a decade; Great Lakes water levels have resumed their 30-year cyclical rise (contrary to a decade of media scare stories that they were drying up due to global warming), and polls show that climate change doesn't even make a list of Michigan voters' top-ten concerns.

Yet in an interview with the Detroit News Monday, Senator Debbie Stabenow (D., Mich.) - recently appointed to the Senate Energy Committee - made clear that fighting the climate crisis is her top priority.
"Climate change is very real," she confessed as she embraced cap and trade's massive tax increase on Michigan industry - at the same time claiming, against all the evidence, that it would not lead to an increase in manufacturing costs or energy prices. "Global warming creates volatility. I feel it when I'm flying. The storms are more volatile. We are paying the price in more hurricanes and tornadoes."

skidmark 08-12-2009 03:22 PM

Hey do you think Al Gore can controll the sun? These are the same kind of people who insisted the earth is flat.

11Fan 08-12-2009 04:13 PM

I would suspect there are many in her line of work that are feeling a little heat of late.

GunshipGuy 08-12-2009 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Winged Wheeler (Post 660683)
If the feds could tax stupidity, Debbie Stabenow could balance the treasurie's books:

DETNEWS | Weblogs | Henry Payne's Sketchbook

Detroit, Mich. - Michigan just experienced its coldest July on record; global temperatures haven't risen in more than a decade; Great Lakes water levels have resumed their 30-year cyclical rise (contrary to a decade of media scare stories that they were drying up due to global warming), and polls show that climate change doesn't even make a list of Michigan voters' top-ten concerns.

Yet in an interview with the Detroit News Monday, Senator Debbie Stabenow (D., Mich.) - recently appointed to the Senate Energy Committee - made clear that fighting the climate crisis is her top priority.
"Climate change is very real," she confessed as she embraced cap and trade's massive tax increase on Michigan industry - at the same time claiming, against all the evidence, that it would not lead to an increase in manufacturing costs or energy prices. "Global warming creates volatility. I feel it when I'm flying. The storms are more volatile. We are paying the price in more hurricanes and tornadoes."

"And there are sea monsters in Lake Michigan. I can feel them when I'm boating." -Henry Payne

Winged Wheeler 08-13-2009 04:39 AM

Maybe she only feels the bumps
 
when she is flying out west

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/coldjuly.jpg

Ewfflyer 08-13-2009 05:33 AM

Never hit 90 degree's this july in Indiana. Now that's just crazy. We finally hit it this last weekend though, but there's no 90's in the forcast

jungle 08-14-2009 12:29 PM

This is wonderful, I am feeling a tingle up my leg now that the debate is over and we have been offered this proof straight from the most ample and sensitive source on the planet. I hope we can soon establish reeducation camps in that model city of correct thinking, Detroit. Perhaps they can offer many of us early retirement once we have admitted our errors. I would be more than happy to devote my life to a more comfortable and ample behind for the good and wise Senator.
I fear the volatility has really just begun though, and it may get much worse before correct thinking can save what is left of mankind.

250 or point 65 08-14-2009 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Winged Wheeler (Post 660683)
Michigan just experienced its coldest July on record

So, when the media takes one bit of information, like a crash, and calls the entire aviation system unsafe, we get all up in arms because we know that LONG TERM data says it is safe.

ONE month of record cold temps is enough to make an entire decision on global warming? I'm not saying global warming is or is not happening. What I'm saying is that it is not smart to say "Well that's it, the science is settled..." based on one month, in one state.

This is my only argument in favor of attempting to reduce emissions (not supporting any specific means of doing that). We know that the smog that we put in the air is not good for the environment. It depletes the ozone, etc. I think we can agree that it is harmful, whether its causing global warming or not. That said, shouldn't we take steps to reduce the harm we are causing the environment? I didn't say, shouldn't we take steps to harm our environment at the cost of harming our economy, but shouldn't we look into steps that work for us and the economy? Wind and solar power, better insulation of homes, and other things that make us more efficient?

jungle 08-14-2009 05:59 PM

Ok, but some of us are feeling the volatility in our rumps, shouldn't that count for something?:D

You may not have caught the humor here, nobody is saying a month of data( but we are looking at a decade of data that says it isn't happening) or a tingle in a fat lady's rump is proof of anything.
If you believe it is harmful, stop flying your plane, stop driving and stop using electricity. Let us know how that works out for us.
I mean if you believe, you should take immediate action. Right? Take those steps you mentioned and solve the problem. We are counting on you.

Wind and solar won't get it done, can you like nuclear?

250 or point 65 08-14-2009 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 662424)
attempting to reduce emissions

You may have missed the word reduce there. I don't believe I said anything about remove. I also don't believe I said that wind and solar were the answer. I think they part of a good economic and environmental option.


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