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MrWalk 08-26-2009 10:35 AM

Demonstrated CRM - Fat Albert flight deck
 
:eek:

YouTube - Blue Angels Fat Albert Airline on board camera cockpit crew raw flight 16x9 SD

11Fan 08-26-2009 11:08 AM

Excellent Find MrWalk !!!


And for some reason, Kai Tak came to mind. Absolutely nothing to do with this though.

MrWalk 08-26-2009 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by 11Fan (Post 668476)
And for some reason, Kai Tak came to mind.

:D No doubt.

Glad you enjoyed it.

USMCFLYR 08-26-2009 05:51 PM

WOW! That is A LOT of comm!
Here is a companion video off of YouTube showing that last short field approach and landing from the outside. It is interesting to know what is going on behind the scenes isn't it? (Notice the nose wheel come up off the deck at the end a little)

YouTube - Blue Angels Fat Albert short landing

USMCFLYR

PiperPower 08-26-2009 11:33 PM

How about this one... looks like they blew a tire on this landing.

YouTube - Blue Angels C-130 "Fat Albert" A Wild Crosswind Landing

I guess I'm surprised they don't blow more tires doing this.

HercDriver130 08-27-2009 03:50 AM

I have flown hundreds of hours of low level in hercs... and we never talked that much..... as for the short field landing.... thats nothing that ever tactical airland C-130 crew does all the time.

Great low level video...... 300 feet at 210-250 in the herc is a LOT of fun.

MrWalk 08-27-2009 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 668633)
WOW! That is A LOT of comm!
Here is a companion video off of YouTube showing that last short field approach and landing from the outside. It is interesting to know what is going on behind the scenes isn't it? (Notice the nose wheel come up off the deck at the end a little)

YouTube - Blue Angels Fat Albert short landing

USMCFLYR

Yeah, even considering the situation I would have never thought there was that much chatter. Good thing Uncle Sam is buying the tires.

FlyBoyd 08-27-2009 03:09 PM

I was able to snag a ride from a fellow Texas alum in a 2006 airshow. I had the seat to the left of the camera angle and I did the whole flag thing too.

I was amazed at the chatter as well. All the Blues operate on a call sequence with known calls and pacing. Fat Albert is no different. It may be excessive but it works. FWIW, I'll take the RadAlt calls if I ever get to see 300KIAS at 50'.

The E-6 pilot/T-44 IP within me thought it was fun. The former T-34 IP within me was a little bored outside of the high speed low pass:)

Although it is busy, it still is a great example of CRM, required calls/responses and the handling of cockpit duties as the pilot, copilot and FE move inside/outside the cockpit.

jungle 08-27-2009 06:25 PM

The F-18 guys just chew gum solo at twice the speed. CRM is a state of mind.:D

USMCFLYR 08-27-2009 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by FlyBoyd (Post 669049)
I was amazed at the chatter as well. All the Blues operate on a call sequence with known calls and pacing. Fat Albert is no different. It may be excessive but it works. FWIW, I'll take the RadAlt calls if I ever get to see 300KIAS at 50'.

I got a ride back in 2000 or so....and you are correct, there is a lot of comm between the formation too and it is very practiced of course. They also used personal callsigns vice position for example. The whole sing-song pace is certainly different from what *regular* admin or tactical comm sounds.

USMCFLYR


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