Pilot? Dentist? No...
10-21-2009, 02:02 PM
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Pilot? Dentist? No...
HARBOR PILOT?!?! You've gotta be kidding me...
Jacksonville Business Journal: Harbour pilots' $300k salary threatened
Jacksonville Business Journal: Harbour pilots' $300k salary threatened
10-21-2009, 02:15 PM
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In some locations (ex Columbia river) they are required, for good reason, to hold a master's license, any ocean, any tonnage. Takes a lot of training, hard work, experience and YEARS or DECADES at sea to get there...I'd say they've earned it. That's just the going rate for guys like that...if they don't pay, nobody will play.
Other locations, it is common for ex-tugboat drivers (civilian and navy) to do the job...those guys could not really sustain $300K+ salaries on the open competitive market.
Other locations, it is common for ex-tugboat drivers (civilian and navy) to do the job...those guys could not really sustain $300K+ salaries on the open competitive market.
10-21-2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
In some locations (ex Columbia river) they are required, for good reason, to hold a master's license, any ocean, any tonnage. Takes a lot of training, hard work, experience and YEARS or DECADES at sea to get there...I'd say they've earned it. That's just the going rate for guys like that...if they don't pay, nobody will play.
Other locations, it is common for ex-tugboat drivers (civilian and navy) to do the job...those guys could not really sustain $300K+ salaries on the open competitive market.
Other locations, it is common for ex-tugboat drivers (civilian and navy) to do the job...those guys could not really sustain $300K+ salaries on the open competitive market.
10-21-2009, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Corny357
Ah, didn't know that. Sounds well deserved then. I figured they were just experts at that particular harbor or something...
I have a friend on the columbia, they are all ex VLCC (super-tanker) captains, all near retirement age, and they seriously risk their life every day they work. Getting on and off those ships in the waves, wind, and Wx is dangerous, they lost a guy last year...over the side, between the pilot boat and the hull.
10-22-2009, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's just the going rate for guys like that...if they don't pay, nobody will play.
10-22-2009, 07:43 AM
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Big River, Big Bucks
Here's a 2001 article from the New Orleans paper about Mississippi River pilots:
Masters of the River
Masters of the River
10-22-2009, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
It's a shame we can't do that in aviation. These guys have put in the time, now they're reaping the rewards. What about us "traditional" pilots?
10-22-2009, 08:42 AM
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What do you suppose the salary would be without a strong union?
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