Jet Blue Driver has a bad day
 

This hit our local news here in LA this evening. I hope that he gets this sorted out without it costing him dearly. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like this was thought all the way through.

B6 pilot threatens to crash plane over girl
 

I bet this will make for some interesting crew room chatter. These kids these days....


Co-pilot removed from JetBlue plane

Read the entire article...

Naccara told WBZ Radio Friday the pilot did "exchange email with another person and we were alerted through various sources," but he denied the pilot threatened to crash his flight out of Logan.

"He never threatened crashing the aircraft. It was a situation in which he was threatening to take his own life and, in fact, his words were he may do it in 'some spectacular fashion' but not anything to do with the aircraft and no reference to crashing the aircraft or harming anyone else other than himself," he said.

so are my chances like 1 in a 1000?
more like one in a million

SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE

We got a bunch of Sally's flying around these days....Has someone told this guy that their is no shortage of women in this world? What a loser

The day in someone's life where they plan to take their own life in a spectacular fashion because someone else doesn't like them is the day they ought to evaluate their priorities.

And until that is accomplished, call in sick.

Okay,

I'm gonna need to see a picture of this girl.

I'll second that...

These children of aviation really give pilots a bad name. What a bunch of weaklings we have raised. I am sure he played soccer as a kid, where everyone got a trophy for being part of a team. Back in the day you had to earn your reward and we played baseball and football.

I guess the good news is he can now take his "crazy" pills and still keep flying. This profession is lowered everyday!

What's the over/under on the number of days before some Congressman who never met a microphone he didn't like suggests that in addition to semiannual EKG tests, we now have to do a Rorschach Ink Blot test for our Medicals.


http://scienceroll.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/ror1.jpg

Two witches pulling apart a woman

A composite F-15, F/A-18, and F-117. (head on view)

...implying men from older generations didn't have mental/psychological/maturity issues.:rolleyes:

NO the did they had JOHN WAYNE!!

YouTube - Copilot slaps Pilot while Flight Engineer watches

LOL! Funny, I saw two trees with a moose sitting in between them facing away.

What? Both of you are crazy. It's clearly a pinching beetle flanked by sea horses on each side:D

Did I read correctly that he had his "weapon" taken away by the police? Sounds like the girlfriend had his testicles in a jar and he was compensating by being a defender of the door.

Hmmm, a member of the NMMS (New Mexicco Midget Society) strikes again. That entire program needs better screening. Is it not ironic that these clowns are vertically challenged and they have the worlds smallest jurisdiction?

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And the award for insulting the greatest number of individuals and groups for the act of one man goes to.....:D

The obvious truth is difficult for some to accept. Can I share my opinion of the over 60 pilots on this thread also?:cool:

Why not include everyone except yourself?:D

I was too tall to be an Artesian. Also been around the block enough to know that girls will come and go. Maybe the poor lad can have that sex change while he is recovering. He sure acts like a Shelia, so he might as be plummed like one.

Events like this often trigger a strong reaction in those with emotional problems. A common defense is to project one's own fear and anxiety onto other individuals or groups while loudly proclaiming one's own mostly imagined strengths.
People sometimes do crazy things and it is often a waste of time to try to explain them or the imagined causes.

To sum things up the problems with the industry are short people, boys acting like women in relationships, and boys playing soccer and getting trophies for just showing up. Well at least he didn't play the flute in high school because then we would have a real nightmare.

Don't worry about me, because I am 6'1", I ditch a girl every time she fails to make me dinner, bare knuckled boxed when I was 6 (My dad told me only girly-men wore pads and played football), punched a fellow pilot for complementing me when I didn't deserve it, and anytime I am about to feel any type of emotion that makes me less manly, I drink a beer and then go work on my car because that is what makes a great pilot.

Ouch, that hurts! ;)

Simple rule to live by and here it is -
'What happens at home stays at home. " I,ve used that rule forever and so has the wife.:)
Kind of reminds me of the old Las Vegas ad .
BTW we had a great time in HNL.:cool:


Fred

I think Timmy just found a new friend to hang with at the ex-airline pilot club!:eek:

Sorry but this is not an "event" to me. It serves as confirmation of opinions about a particular carrier and the yutes they have that decided to play airline pilot.

Take the Colgan crash, the Pinnacle "FL410 Club" and some other amazingly stupid things that have happened in the regionals. The puppy mills have produced some really bad pilots.

Many of the pilots working in the industry don't have any sense of what being an airline pilot is about. I have ridden in the back of RJ's that guys taxi and fly like they have stolen them. There is no airmanship or deft touch. I have sat on the jumpseat in a CRJ on a commute to work and watched a F/O fly right through the middle of an easily avoidable cumulus cloud that rocked the crap out the airplane. He turned and smiled and said; "that was fun, I want to find another one". With the quick upgrades and minimal experience they don't have anyone with any longevity in the Capt seat to lead by example.

Again, I am sorry if the truth hurts but the evidence supports the argument. Airline pilots did not lose respect in the eyes of the public. We have given it away with pilots using poor judgment. Be it showing up drunk to fly or going bat crazy when your told "she's just not that into you". It is time for pilots as a group to police our own. No more group hugs or coddling for the weak. Time to make the difficult choices to thin the herd. We need to lead by example and bring the fringe back to the fold. If they choose not to then get them to the PSC and reclaim what was surrendered.

L

There are many ways to look at this, and anecdotal evidence from a single individual is the least reliable. Statistics from around the world tell quite a different story.

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Which Airplanes and Airlines are the Safest?
June 9, 2009
By Terry Smiljanich:

The crash of Air France Flight 447 in Brazil, last week, killing 228 passengers and crew, has renewed questions about airline safety in many people’s minds.

How safe is flying? Which airlines have the best track record? What airplane models have fewer fatal crashes?

Flying safety

Last year alone, U.S. airline passengers traveled 798 billion miles. During the same period, Americans traveled about 3 trillion miles in automobiles. Using comparative figures, it has been calculated that the chances of a fatality in driving between Boston and Washington, D.C., is 8.5 times greater than the chances of an airline fatality for that same trip. So there is no question that airline safety still beats driving risks by miles.

Statistics show that on average in the U.S. a person dies in a plane crash for every 4 million flights taken. These are the kind of odds faced in winning the lottery with a single ticket. You are more likely to die from stumbling while walking, an accidental firearms discharge, or suffocating in bed while sleeping than from perishing in a plane crash.

Which Airlines Have the Best Safety Record?

The top eight airlines in the United States (those having more than 2 million flights per year) all have good safety records. Their rank, based on the number of fatal events per million miles traveled, is as follows:

1.Southwest Airlines 0.00 (no fatalities in its history)
2.Delta Airlines 0.17
3.Northwest Airlines 0.21
4.Continental Airlines 0.24
5.US Air 0.28
6.United Airlines 0.31
7.Alaska Airlines 0.33
8.American Airlines 0.40
This is an average of 0.24 fatal events per million flights.

How does that compare to the airlines of other countries? The sixteen airlines based in other countries with flights exceeding 2 million per year average 1.10 fatal events per million flights, or more than four times worse than the U.S. average. The top 5 safest foreign airlines are:

1.British Airlines 0.17
2.SAS 0.19
3.Lufthansa 0.22
4.All Nippon Airlines 0.22
5.Air France 0.72 (not including the 6/1/09 crash)
The foreign airlines with the worst fatality records are:

1.Turkish Airlines 3.60
2.Indian Airlines 3.53
3.Aeromexico 1.76
4.Japan Airlines 1.36
5.SwissAir 1.20
It should be noted that the official airline of China, Air China, does not release mileage or accident statistics. It is a good bet that if China does not want the world to know the answers to these questions, it must not like the answers.

There is no doubt that the American airline industry is on average the safest in the world.

What Airplanes Have the Best Safety Records

The top 5 airplanes currently in production and flown in more than 10 million flights per year rank as follows:

1.Airbus A320 0.13
2.ATR 42/72 0.33
3.Boeing 737 0.36
4.Boeing 767 0.40
5.Boeing 747 0.76
Other airplanes no longer in production but still flying include the Boeing MD80/90 (0.26), the Boeing 757 (0.30), the Boeing 727 (0.49) and the Airbus 300 (0.54).

What about the Airbus A330 involved in the Air France disaster? This airplane came into production in the late 90’s. 1,021 planes have been ordered, but only 609 have actually been delivered.

Compared to the Airbus A320 (6,321 ordered, 3,893 delivered), comparatively few of the A330 planes are in the air. The fatality statistics kept on this plane are currently unavailable, perhaps due to the lack of a sufficient track record, but the Air France crash will obviously push this model nearly to the top of the list.

This might be considered an unfair comparison, since only one accident can seriously skew the statistics. Take the Concorde SST, the supersonic airline in operation from 1976 to 2003. It only had one fatal accident in its entire history, but because it flew less than 100,000 flights total, its fatal events per million flights is 11.36, the highest of any aircraft model.

It could be argued that statistics such as these are misleading, since so few airline crashes occur, making them susceptible to the vagaries of chance occurences. What can be gleaned from these statistics, however, is that the major airplane models in current use have good track records, and that the air safety regulations in a few other countries are suspect.
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To sum it up, all types of flying have gotten much safer over the years. There is always room for improvement.
So much for the good old days.

I'm glad that regionals are the only ones who screw things up :rolleyes:

SWA killed one little boy. Maybe that doesn't count because he wasn't a pax.

I would not buy my life insurance premiums based on those stats. Here is what I find interesting in your charts, USAir had one of the greatest number of hull loses for a few years yet they are ranked average. Some of the other carriers had one hull loss, yet they were widebody a/c so that generates a higher rate. Let's see.....more crashes of smaller planes or one crash of a larger plane and the one crash rates as less safe carrier.

Sorry if I don't buy into your logic. How about hull loses per company? Pinnacle owned operations are pretty dangerous if you use that scale along with Fed Ex. Pilots that come through the Gulfstream puppy mill have had active roles, I believe, in most of the recent loss of life accidents in the US.

Just show us some numbers, shouldn't be too hard to do, there are many safety summaries out there. It isn't my logic, it is something called statistics.
Wow us and find some that prove your point.

Why not show us how many passengers have been fatally injured in Pinnacle operations? That should be easy enough and reflect the quality of your beliefs. Then you could show us a comparison with your own very special airline. That might be fun.

Doesn't Pinnacle own Colgan? Pinnacle Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Why yes! Yes they do!

You can start here and comment as you see fit...FRONTLINE: flying cheap: watch the full program | PBS

Pretty fitting photo here: Photos: Saab 340B Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

For the Gulfstream Puppy Mill crowd: Pilots Warn of Safety Lapses at Regional Airlines - ProPublica

What's next? You want to deny the Holocaust too?

Again your stats from the chart you showed are a bit skewed. They tag AA and UA with "crashes" for the terrorist activity on 9/11. Doesn't seem like an apples/oranges comparison. I mean you imply that Pinnacle should not count the "410 CLUB, DUDE" guys since they were only ones on board to participate in that decision. You want "passengers" not hulls caused by crews.

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Ok, so far we have weaklings, Jet Blue, FFDOs, over 60 guys, Colgan,Pinnacle, USair, FEDEX, Gulfstream, CRJ drivers, drunks, crazies, a really unique way to interpret statistics which ignores their defined parameters, and of course I am now a holocaust denier. Did I leave anyone out?
You win, I just can't fight the tide.:D


And yet somehow we managed to rack up the safest decade on record in the good old US of A. Amazing.

Don't pat yourself on the back too soon. The JetBlue guy was a twofer! FFDO and BlueJet pilot. Colgan and Pinnacle are one entity, another twofer. You were asking about accidents and USAir and FedEx were the leader in hull loses for a few years. I am not trying to throw dirt over the issue like some I can think of.

I am sure the families of those killed in the Colgan BUF crash are able to sleep well at night knowing that this was the safest decade in history.:( Or those CMR LEX families are probably very relieved to know this as well!:rolleyes:

As long as you don't believe there is a problem, then I am sure one doesn't exist. How much did that type of "philosophy" class cost dear old dad at PMU- (Puppy Mill University)?

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Simple mathematics often poses a problem for some of us. Have a nice day.:D

By the way, I was happy to see that your mom still gives serviceman's discounts.