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Top 25 Mistakes Airline Pilots Make (Divorce)

Old 11-10-2012, 04:01 PM
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Interesting post, one may well ask why people believe the state or religion are thought to make a relationship any more legitimate-or for that matter why do they think the state or religion make anything legitimate.
For religion, it is all about class and caste, especially in the Indian Sub Continent.... the primal human need to belong is almost like air and food. Reject the religious and societal expectations and one will be shunned, shamed and outcast.

In India, 30 year old man marries twenty year old girl. Man has all the power and usually keeps it. Girl is told to comply and life will be easier. Resist and life will be hard.
Husband keeps wife in line or he will suffer the scorn of society. Freedom and personal autonomy is sacrificed.....

Girl meets husband once or twice, gets married and now society says is more than normal to have sex with someone she doesn't know... It was similar in the West 200 years ago.....


True, often the best choice is to create a new game and deny others the pleasure of controlling your life.
No need to join every silly game that comes along.
Easier said than done.... even in the West.....
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Snarge View Post
For religion, it is all about class and caste, especially in the Indian Sub Continent.... the primal human need to belong is almost like air and food. Reject the religious and societal expectations and one will be shunned, shamed and outcast.

In India, 30 year old man marries twenty year old girl. Man has all the power and usually keeps it. Girl is told to comply and life will be easier. Resist and life will be hard.
Husband keeps wife in line or he will suffer the scorn of society. Freedom and personal autonomy is sacrificed.....

Girl meets husband once or twice, gets married and now society says is more than normal to have sex with someone she doesn't know... It was similar in the West 200 years ago.....


Easier said than done.... even in the West.....
The need to belong has killed more than a hundred million humans in the last hundred years, it may be one of our greatest flaws.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:06 PM
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Shoot, I wish I saw this article six months ago! I'm making most of the mistakes listed
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Reference Mistake #9 “Pilots representing themselves and not getting a lawyer”

Has anyone here gone that route? I’m currently in the process of divorce with my very short wife of less than a year. Minimum shared assets which have already been divided and two kids that we’ve agreed on child support for. I’d prefer to keep the attorney fees out of this and just go our separate ways, am I crazy?
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic View Post
Reference Mistake #9 “Pilots representing themselves and not getting a lawyer”

Has anyone here gone that route? I’m currently in the process of divorce with my very short wife of less than a year. Minimum shared assets which have already been divided and two kids that we’ve agreed on child support for. I’d prefer to keep the attorney fees out of this and just go our separate ways, am I crazy?
Less than a year, but child support? Kids from her previous marriage, or your kids pre-marriage?

I wouldn't pay for another dude's kids.

Other than that, you can probably save money on a DIY under the circumstances as long as she's reasonable about it.

If your kids, make sure the custody arrangement will work with your career. A "gentleman's agreement" might bite you in the butt later.

Personally I would at least consult with a lawyer so that you have an idea of the realistic range of outcomes if you did go to the mat. If she agrees to something in that range and you're good, sure why not.
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic View Post
Reference Mistake #9 “Pilots representing themselves and not getting a lawyer”

Has anyone here gone that route? I’m currently in the process of divorce with my very short wife of less than a year. Minimum shared assets which have already been divided and two kids that we’ve agreed on child support for. I’d prefer to keep the attorney fees out of this and just go our separate ways, am I crazy?
Not a bad idea to consult a reputable attorney, as to the legality of such an agreement in your state. Many states have their own quirks and hidden gotchas. They can make good recommendations, especially if you have joint custody of the children, should you want to take them out of state to which the agreement/contract is being executed. The verbal agreement should be memorialized, and the very least notarized. This may prevent conflicts or “But you said.” crop up in the future.
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Old 11-06-2021, 01:40 PM
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Washington State is a very bad state to file for divorce in a long term marriage (20+ years or 25+ depending on the judge you get)

The following info concerns long term only that go to trial,

It is no-fault and community property...... However, unlike other states, if it goes to trail the judge can award disproportionately.

In specific situations this could leave a primary wage earner with zero or negative net worth and lifetime maintenance (alimony)

As a marriage nears or has exceeded the long term limit, a pre-nup becomes worthless.

If the pilot is near retirement, there will be little to no time to recover financially.

The full brunt of this can be experienced for cases heard in King or Snohomish County (App Div 1)

Do not file for divorce in WA state unless you know it will not go to trail.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Less than a year, but child support? Kids from her previous marriage, or your kids pre-marriage?

I wouldn't pay for another dude's kids.

Other than that, you can probably save money on a DIY under the circumstances as long as she's reasonable about it.

If your kids, make sure the custody arrangement will work with your career. A "gentleman's agreement" might bite you in the butt later.

Personally I would at least consult with a lawyer so that you have an idea of the realistic range of outcomes if you did go to the mat. If she agrees to something in that range and you're good, sure why not.
Thanks for your advice, I appreciate it. We had both our kids 1 and 3 yrs old before we got married. My gut tells me to consult with an attorney too, I think that’s conservative. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic View Post
Reference Mistake #9 “Pilots representing themselves and not getting a lawyer”

Has anyone here gone that route? I’m currently in the process of divorce with my very short wife of less than a year. Minimum shared assets which have already been divided and two kids that we’ve agreed on child support for. I’d prefer to keep the attorney fees out of this and just go our separate ways, am I crazy?
How does that old saying go?

A man who plays attorney and represents himself has a fool for a client.

Good luck.
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Old 11-07-2021, 06:10 AM
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The trips we took together either both crew or when she non-reved on my trips coupled with some financial records could look bad. So I guess I will have to address this as part of the legal proceedings if the evidence materializes. My biggest worry is when the company pulls the records from their request, will the company look at what they are providing. Will they care? Could the deposition records be given to the company along with the evidence furnished by the company. Apparently that is going to be her lawyer's next step depositions for me and possibly even for my friend. My attorney isn't able to tell me what I am risking with the company, so I don't know how much I have at stake. Trying to decide how much do I cough up in an offer to keep this from splashing back on our jobs? Is that really a possibility?
“Will they care?”

My opinion is that a company won’t look to get involved unless they have too.

If an employee complained about you, then the company would absolutely care.

If a spouse is complaining about how you conducted yourself on a trip, they likely won’t care. Unless staying faithful to a spouse is in the company handbook they wont go out of their way to punish you.

I’m not a professional, not even an airline pilot, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
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