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Old 02-18-2011, 11:36 PM
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The FAA has authorized Executive Jet Management (EJM) to replace paper terminal charts with Apple iPad-based Class 1 electronic flight bags (EFBs) running Jeppesen’s Mobile TC chart display app. Jeppesen decompression-tested the iPad, and EJM conducted interference testing to meet requirements in FAA 8900.1. Fifty-five EJM pilots flew 250 flight segments in 10 airplane types over three months to evaluate the iPad EFB. The FAA authorization enables EJM to use the iPad with Jeppesen Mobile TC as the sole IFR terminal chart reference. The EJM pilots carry the iPad on a kneeboard, but work is under way for FAA authorization to mount the iPad in cockpits as a Class 2 EFB. Jeppesen currently does not offer en route charts on the iPad, nor is own-ship position displayed on charts, although the company is planning to add en route charts this year, a spokesman told AIN. It appears that the FAA is not requiring testing of every iPad that EJM pilots use. “In support of FAA authorization,” he added, “Jeppesen successfully completed RTCA DO-160 rapid decompression to 51,000 feet on a working iPad that is representative of the devices that will be used by authorized EJM pilots. The test article was functional before, during and after the rapid decompression event, with no anomalies observed.” EJM is offering the iPad EFB “as an option to crewmembers this month as part of an application process that is aircraft and crew specific,” according to EJM parent NetJets.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:19 PM
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I'm surprised this thread didn't get more posts - I just found a similar article on Wired: FAA OKs iPad for Pilots’ Charts | Autopia | Wired.com

The only authorization I'm aware of is for EJM, but other airlines will be sure to follow as it now appears to be a "box checking" exercise to get approval.
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It sure will be great to have every plane. For relatively cheap. Almost no excuse not to have one.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HSLD View Post
I'm surprised this thread didn't get more posts
Maybe we should move it!!
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I wonder how they will solve the glare issue with iPads? I've heard some people complaining that they're very difficult to read in a sunny cockpit. Here are some pictures I've found.

Also, are they a bit too big for a kneeboard?







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I'm sure there must be anti-glare covers? A quick search found this: http://www.boxwave.com/products/clea...-ipad_3779.htm

Here's the thread on Alaska's effort: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tml#post952206

Yes, we should definitely move the thread......
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You can't modify a piece of equipment certified for flight operations.
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
You can't modify a piece of equipment certified for flight operations.
Of course you can. Either get the FAA approval for the iPad with the anti-glare device, or get an STC for the anti-glare device.
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