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Old 08-11-2011 | 07:03 AM
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Pretty good article in the WSJ about pilot contract negotiations. Just Google it if you want to read the full article. The last paragraph in the article is from the "Friend of Every Delta Pilot" Mr. Terry Erskine (read below).

Terry Erskine, a consultant and retired labor negotiator for Delta Air Lines Inc., acknowledges that pilots are frustrated. But he thinks they haven't tempered their expectations sufficiently. "It hasn't sunk in yet that it's a forever-changed industry," he says.

Now check out one of the comments:

To quote Mr. Terry Erskine is a mistake. He is retired and has not kept up with the reality of the current industry. Delta Air Lines is now flying to many new destinations where the Delta Pilot is faced with increased duty days and more challenging flight conditions. Working conditions are more challenging and pilot compensation is at a historic low. At the same time Southwest Airlines pays their pilots more to fly smaller aircraft in a safer US domestic environment. If you compare similar sized aircraft pilot pay rates SWA pay 21%-25% more. Mr. Erskine, how can SWA make a profit quarter after quarter paying their pilots much higher pay rates when they fly aircraft half the size? and how can you justify DAL CEO Anderson making 8.2 million while SWA CEO Kelly makes 3.2 million? Delta pilots are looking for a 25%-40% raise this next contract, Mr. Anderson makes 135% more than the SWA CEO. Mr. Erskine should spend more time on his golf game and less time commenting on an industry he has never understood.

From 2001-2005 US airline pilots took pay cuts ranging from 40-50%, most lost their retirement plan. What kind of pay cuts did management take? They are making more than ever. Any talk of more pilot pay cuts or no pay raises by management is indefensible, immoral and incomprehensible by the collective pilot groups.


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Old 08-11-2011 | 07:28 AM
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Age 65 hiring starts a year from this December. New rest rules may get watered down, but will still get changed to some degree. Right now we bargain with zero leverage. Wait until everyone is hiring in a couple years, then pay will finally rise.
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Old 08-11-2011 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by labbats
Wait until everyone is hiring in a couple years, then pay will finally rise.

Of course, because the market won't be flooded with eager beavers who will work for free.

Yep, guaranteed.... pay will rise.
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Old 08-11-2011 | 03:26 PM
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I'll have whatever lab bats is having. Age 65 hiring means nothing, FAR 117 hiring is going to be less than the trolls are hoping for and the last pilot shortage was in 1940.

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Old 08-11-2011 | 10:37 PM
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So we start ww3 and wage an air war like never seen. That way we can have a pilot shortage.
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