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Old 08-01-2016, 03:08 AM
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"Dark Money" Funds Climate Change Denial Effort - Scientific American

"Dark Money" Funds Climate Change Denial Effort

A Drexel University study finds that a large slice of donations to organizations that deny global warming are funneled through third-party pass-through organizations that conceal the original funder

By Douglas Fischer, The Daily Climate on December 23, 2013

The largest, most-consistent money fueling the climate denial movement are a number of well-funded conservative foundations built with so-called "dark money," or concealed donations, according to an analysis released Friday afternoon.

The study, by Drexel University environmental sociologist Robert Brulle, is the first academic effort to probe the organizational underpinnings and funding behind the climate denial movement.
It found that the amount of money flowing through third-party, pass-through foundations like DonorsTrust and Donors Capital, whose funding cannot be traced, has risen dramatically over the past five years.

In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010.



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Old 08-01-2016, 06:24 AM
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SayAlt: re statement of smoking....

Over his political career Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN) has consistently carried the tobacco industry’s water, denying the dangers of cigarettes, opposing government regulation, and slashing smoking cessation efforts. In return, they rewarded him with more than $100,000 in campaign donations.
In 2000, Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN), then running for an open U.S. House seat, came out against a proposed settlement between government and the tobacco industry, calling it “big government.” In a shocking editorial, he wrote: “Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn’t kill.” Pence acknowledged that smoking is not “good for you,” but claimed that two-thirds of smokers do not die from smoking related illness and “9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.” He warned of a slippery-slope in which government would soon seek to discourage fatty foods, caffeine, and SUVs.
In a debate that September, his Democratic opponent pressed him on the suggestion that smoking does not cause cancer and noted his contributions from tobacco companies. According to the Indianapolis Star’s coverage of the exchange, “Pence clarified that he wrote that there was no causal link medically identifying smoking as causing lung cancer.” While cigarette manufacturers might have been still claiming that there was not causal link between smoking and lung cancer, medical science had settled the question years earlier. A landmark report by the U.S. Surgeon General had documented the link — in 1964.
After the debate, the paper reported, Pence acknowledged he had received an estimated $5,000 and $10,000 in contributions from tobacco companies. His actual total was already at least $13,000 in contributions from the political action committees for Brown & Williamson, Philip Morris, R.J. Reynolds, and US Tobacco, according to Political MoneyLine data reviewed by ThinkProgress. A May 2000 letter from the Reynolds PAC to Pence, now available in the Truth Tobacco Industry Documents archive archives, conveyed a $1,000 check and praised his “position on issues important to our company.”


Apparently some still think that smoking does not kill, are you sure that is not whats happening with the climate change deniers?
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:47 AM
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Notice again, folks, how the warmulists must distract, obfuscate, redirect...ANYTHING but answer the questions put to them?? Note how they are DESPERATE to get off the defensive and make the topic anything BUT lying, manipulating democrat politicians and their flunkys using taxpayer $$ that doesn't belong to them to fund their climate change religion??

Here we go yet again.


Assuming that's all true (a very big assumption)...that's not taxpayer $$, is it? Those are private funds, right? You DO understand the difference, don't you, Einstein?

Btw, just clarifying who I'm dealing with here...you are a hypocrite, right?...still flying airplanes and driving cars?


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Over his political career Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN) has consistently carried the tobacco industry’s water, denying the dangers of cigarettes
That's a very poor attempt to deflect and distract. We aren't talking about individual politicians or tobacco (albeit it IS noted that you warmulist fear-mongers are desperately attempting to equate global warming theory with the proven dangers of smoking. Problem is smoking science is proven, unlike warming theory). This thread is about global warming theory, not smoking.

Now answer the questions about this blatant and obvious conflict of interest...


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Old 08-01-2016, 06:50 AM
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Look who was trying to help Koch Industries out with their pilot needs on this forum.

Did you ever fly or work for the Koch brothers or their company?

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In 2013, Forbes called it the second largest privately held company in the United States (after Cargill), with an annual revenue of $115 billion , down from the largest in 2006. If Koch Industries were a public company in 2013, it would have ranked 17 in the Fortune 500.


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Your attempts to deflect and distract are as pathetic as they are blatantly obvious, Mr. Hypocritical "I 'Flytolive' but believe in man-made global warming".

You do understand the difference between private funds and taxpayer $$, don't you Einstein??

You CAN appreciate that you are entitled to fund climate research with your own money as much as you like, but you are NOT entitled to use taxpayer $$ to do it, right??
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You do understand the difference between private funds and taxpayer $$, don't you Einstein??
I do, but you apparently don't understand the difference is irrelevant with regards to whether it is a conflict of interest. You just don't like the government.

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You CAN appreciate that you are entitled to fund climate research with your own money as much as you like, but you are NOT entitled to use taxpayer $$ to do it, right??
Wrong. Under the constitution of the United States Congress appropriates funds for all kinds of research.



It was so nice of you to post a pilot job opening for Koch Industries on this forum. Did you work for the Kochs or Koch Industries?

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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post

I do, but the difference is irrelevant
LMAO

So pathetic, sad, and intellectually dishonest. You should say that with a german accent, you know.

After all, alarmists like the NY AG are attempting to criminally prosecute Exxon for using it's own private funds to "mislead the public" re: an unproven theory!

Oh well. Hypocritical fascists will be hypocritical fascists.

"Do as I say, not as I do!"

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Wrong. Under the constitution of the United States Congress appropriates funds for all kinds of research.
O'rly? We can imagine how ape-chit the leftist warmer lobby would go if Congress appropriated taxpayer $$ to prove warming theory was false. lol






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Wow, you just cannot manage to stay focused and unemotional about the issue of global climate change. You resort to calling people fascists and comparing scientists to Nazis. Such silliness is the clear sign of a tortured argument.

And now we know that you went to the trouble of posting a pilot job listing for none other that Koch Industries about which you seem reluctant to address. Since Koch Industries is one of the biggest funders of global climate change denial we have to wonder if you are representing their interests in some form or fashion. What a great idea to use social media to spread misinformation and propaganda. What's funny is the extent of your projection, illogic and misunderstanding of basic science. If that is the case the next time they should send a more well versed errand boy.
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