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Winged Wheeler 12-05-2011 05:07 AM

lemonade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 1096256)
Only 97% of climatologists think humans are causing global warming and everybody knows NASA is a bunch of uneducated hippies. Besides, anything that would cause me to questions my firmly held assumptions or alter my behavior, by definition cannot exist. Global warming is another myth cooked up by Spendocrats to keep the boot of the government on the necks of hard-working Americans, just like so-called honey-mustard. The free market always has and always will fix everyone's problems. I still spray my yard with DDT and I haven't seen a bug (or a bird) in decades! I don't care what so-called scientific data says. I knew global warming was a scam the minute I heard about it -- there was ice on my grass when I woke this morning! Where's your global warming now? I'm 100% convinced that I'm 100% correct and anyone who disagrees with me is either a moron or a crook. Nothing anyone says will pierce my veil of self-assurance.

This post is a good illustration of what these people think about those who do not consent to be governed by them.

WW

FDXLAG 12-05-2011 05:26 AM

I have no doubt we will have food riots in this country in my lifetime. But it wont be climate change that causes them.

Congratulations the good old USA has finally reached an official public debt of 100% of GDP.

jungle 12-05-2011 10:22 AM

What is really funny is that even common criminals know far more about the carbon cycle than the most rabid greenie, that is why they boost the temperature and augment CO2 levels to get the highest crop yields possible in clandestine growing operations.

The ultimate grow room | Cannabis Culture Magazine


Always remember that science and engineering have built a better world.

Social engineering has proven itself to be far more dangerous than nuclear weapons.

FDXLAG 12-05-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1096886)
What is really funny is that even common criminals know far more about the carbon cycle than the most rabid greenie, that is why they boost the temperature and augment CO2 levels to get the highest crop yields possible in clandestine growing operations.

The ultimate grow room | Cannabis Culture Magazine


Always remember that science and engineering have built a better world.

Social engineering has proven itself to be far more dangerous than nuclear weapons.

Yeah but if the temperature in the room rises to 451 F his crop yields will go to zero.

Zoot Suit 12-05-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by N2264J (Post 1096707)
Notwithstanding you flag, that's exactly what I'm claiming. We are bumping up against the "crop yield" threshold, beyond which past experience becomes irrelevant. If you're
in your 20s, you will live to see food riots in this country.





Well if we do it will be because there are over 7 BILLION people(and growing) and farmland being sold because the land is worth more to developers AND politicians absolutly screwing farmers by regulating crap they are clueless on.


It certainly won't be because the temperature went up or down a few degrees.

DYNASTY HVY 12-06-2011 03:38 AM

Keystone Pipeline Project
Would have been easier for them to deal with the Chinese when one considers the overwhelming costs associated with doing business in the U.S.A due to the regulatory process.:rolleyes:
And therein lies the problem .

Ally

Winged Wheeler 12-06-2011 04:59 AM

ridiculous pessimism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by N2264J (Post 1096707)
Notwithstanding you flag, that's exactly what I'm claiming. We are bumping up against the "crop yield" threshold, beyond which past experience becomes irrelevant. If you're
in your 20s, you will live to see food riots in this country.



The Irony of Climate | Worldwatch Institute



Washington Post, Lester Brown explain how extreme weather, climate change drive record food prices. | ThinkProgress

Crop yield threshold? Have you ever heard of Norman Borlaug?

Food riots and high food prices? What percentage of US grain is now diverted to green fuel boondoggles like ethanol? How does that affect the prices? How about the regulatory drought in Central California? Federal policies mandate the dumping of vast quantities of fresh water from the Sacramento river into the ocean, rather than using it for the fruit and vegetable farms in the central valley. How does that affect food prices?
I'll give you a hint, it doesn't make them go down.

Climate change, whatever that means, might affect food prices, but not as much as climate change policies.

WW

Red Forman 12-06-2011 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoot Suit (Post 1095803)
The earth has been here for billions of years. In that time, temps have risen, temps have fallen. Water levels have risen, water levels have fallen. Deserts are now oceans, oceans are now deserts. Continents have moved thousands of miles. The ice age came and went. ALL BEFORE MAN WAS HERE.

Now you want to tell me that man has managed to throw our habitat off kilter in just 100 years of industrialization?????

And on top of that you want to tell me the way to fix it is to tax it??? The only thing that accomplishes is making billions for people who are already rich, while causing more financial hardships on the working class. What complete utter nonsense!!!!!

N2264J,

For the third time, will you please respond to this?

jungle 12-06-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 1097331)
N2264J,

For the third time, will you please respond to this?

They can't respond, it ruins the magic spell.

The Earth has been warming for roughly 20,000 years, man had nothing to do with this or any of the previous ice ages.

Ice age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The science really is settled you see, just not the way they want it to be......

N2264J 12-07-2011 09:43 AM

Re: Climategate--The Final Chapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 1097331)
N2264J, For the third time, will you please respond to this?

There is a video series called "How It All Ends" that will provide insight into the
problem and answer many of his questions. It's an excellent primer on the subject.

The whole series of free videos takes between 4 and 5 hours but he'll pick up a lot.
The link below "The Mechanics of Global Climate Change" is a good place to start.
This section takes 30 minutes:

How It All Ends: Mechanics of GCC (pt 1 of 3) - YouTube


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