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Climategate--The Final Chapter

Old 12-04-2012, 07:57 AM
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A climate crank's recent epiphany from the movie "Chasing Ice."

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Old 12-04-2012, 08:46 AM
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That video isn't going to change anyone's mind. Using words like "brainwashed" and "crank" is divisive, and skeptics want clear facts, not tearful grandmas.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:52 AM
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Perhaps the stimulus of 2013 can do for wind what 2009 did for solyndra:

Deval-ued Wind Power - Kevin D. Williamson - National Review Online
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:04 AM
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Any student of geology or natural history knows the great ice sheet which covered most of North America has been retreating for 15,000 years. Nobody is a skeptic about that.

Perhaps N2264J can tell us how to stop this natural event, or even how to bring the ice sheet back.
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I don't want the ice sheet back. I like the warmer temps. So what if the people who built at sea level near the coast line have to move a little farther back. I don't care. Look at what happened in NJ and NYC. Why on earth would you live so close to the water and not in a raised structure. It isn't like storm surge has never happened there before. Why did we let them build like that?
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:33 AM
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That video isn't going to change anyone's mind.
Doesn't matter. It's uplifting to see that people's minds are changing. 70% by some accounts (up from the 50s percentile just two years ago) now believe climate destabilization is real. As it turns out, cataclysmic droughts, fire seasons, hurricanes and floods are so much more compelling than mere "sciency science." We're having once-in-a-century weather events every few years now.

Using words like "brainwashed" and "crank" is divisive, and skeptics want clear facts, not tearful grandmas.
Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.

Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.

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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
Doesn't matter. It's uplifting to see that people's minds are changing. 70% by some accounts (up from the 50s percentile just two years ago) now believe climate destabilization is real. As it turns out, cataclysmic droughts, fire seasons, hurricanes and floods are so much more compelling than mere "sciency science." We're having once-in-a-century weather events every few years now.



Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.

Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.

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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”


“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”


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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.
To debate or disagree with someone is one thing, but the name calling is so juvenile and immature. Whenever you say crank it reminds me of a first grader calling someone else a poo poo head or fat face. Why don't you grow up and try and act like an adult and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:55 AM
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CFACT punks UN with CO2 masks - YouTube

I wonder what is the progressive term for someone made to look ridiculous by a "crank".

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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.

Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.

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We eagerly await any science you care to post. Unfortunately you continue to post tripe and pretend it is science.

Climate change is indeed real, when both hemispheres of the Earth were covered in a miles thick ice sheet and that ice sheet melted-that is climate change. There are many examples of this and equally radical climate change in the past. Clearly man had no influence in the radical climate change of the past.

What we would really like to know is what caused those climate changes, what the optimum temperature is for Earth, and how we can achieve that optimum temperature.
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