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05-04-2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Not really, ran up last minute wasn't really expecting to get on (we all know might as well try until it pulls away) but since the captain was at the gate thought he might at least feign an interest in helping me out. Nada.
File a report with your company’s jump seat coordinator if you think you have a legitimate gripe.
05-04-2018, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Not really, ran up last minute wasn't really expecting to get on (we all know might as well try until it pulls away) but since the captain was at the gate thought he might at least feign an interest in helping me out. Nada.
05-04-2018, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by A Squared
Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.
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05-05-2018, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by A Squared
Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.
05-05-2018, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yeah he isn't really standing on firm ground on this one. But as a CA, I would have gotten the guy on if mathematically feasible, even if it took a delay.
05-05-2018, 07:40 AM
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Whew, tough crowd. It has far less to do with me not getting on than his meek response that made it 'toolish'. A simple, "hey man sorry wish we could help you out" would've sufficed.
I've done all manner of things to get folks on over the years and the two times I couldn't I apologized and told them exactly why. One of which response qualifies for ultimate tool label but we'll save that story for another day.
So if I'm the tool here for expecting this guy to at least offer some semblance of empathy or professional courtesy about a fellow pilot getting home so be it.
I've done all manner of things to get folks on over the years and the two times I couldn't I apologized and told them exactly why. One of which response qualifies for ultimate tool label but we'll save that story for another day.
So if I'm the tool here for expecting this guy to at least offer some semblance of empathy or professional courtesy about a fellow pilot getting home so be it.
05-16-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Floobs
Seems like ancestor worship. By getting a seat in the back I've basically already been given permission to ride along. Just seems like an unnecessary practice in this day and age.
Read up on Captain’s Authority how you got that jumpseat in the first place.
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