Tool of the day
#8291
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,903
Not to worry pee wee... you too may be the one in the same situation during your career... you may be the one bumbling the off liner from your company's jumpseat so you can attend a dive party reunion.
Then you can nominate yourself TOTD.
For what it's worth, I've been bumped by last minute shows over the course of my career. It is what it is and can't be thin skinned about it. I've taken the last seat in economy in the row between two whales that haven't bathed in weeks so an offliner could get the jump seat. That too is what the career is all about.
In hope you will extend the same courtesy to your fellow professionals.
Then you can nominate yourself TOTD.
For what it's worth, I've been bumped by last minute shows over the course of my career. It is what it is and can't be thin skinned about it. I've taken the last seat in economy in the row between two whales that haven't bathed in weeks so an offliner could get the jump seat. That too is what the career is all about.
In hope you will extend the same courtesy to your fellow professionals.
Last edited by captjns; 06-06-2016 at 04:53 AM.
#8292
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 840
The choice of commuting comes with risks and situations just as the one mentioned. The Skywest pilot had priority for the jumpseat and exercised it. Many at other carriers would do the same. It really does not matter why, where, out of uniform etc. She had the right to be somewhere just as much as anyone else and she was under no obligation to give up that right or offer you any alternatives. Morale of the story? Move to base if you can!
#8293
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: systems analyst
Posts: 757
I agree, I've been two legging it for 10 years, we all know the risks, and assume such. But the line, "what's your excuse next time", is pretty douchey. Someone that hardlines a commuter with that BS, in my opinion, is far more toolish. It IS professional courtesy, in due time, what goes around, comes around. I don't take that as a threat or whining. Skywest had every right to the JS, but she is not, in the right. No one is required to exercise professional courtesy, and some, as evident, may not be aware of such things. There will be a time when she will need someone to help her out, and she may not get that help, simple as that, that is not a threat, it's the reality.
My exception is the coarse arrogance of the response, "get a tissue"? Here's one for you, be the adult, be a professional, assume the best of your fellow aviators, don't be a douche about it.
Enjoy your caviar.
My exception is the coarse arrogance of the response, "get a tissue"? Here's one for you, be the adult, be a professional, assume the best of your fellow aviators, don't be a douche about it.
Enjoy your caviar.
when i am traveling its for a reason and i will bump anyone off my own companies JS if I need to. And i dont get butt hurt when i get bumped....its like getting mad at the sun for being hot.
come on
#8294
Guys, I get it. I stated that a million times already. The part I didn't like was the way she talked to me when she did it. That's is. She didn't need to tell me a reason and she didn't need to smile when she did it. That's all there is to it.
I know it's her own metal and I know the priority. All I'm saying if you bump someone, don't be a dick about it.
I know it's her own metal and I know the priority. All I'm saying if you bump someone, don't be a dick about it.
#8295
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,383
Guys, I get it. I stated that a million times already. The part I didn't like was the way she talked to me when she did it. That's is. She didn't need to tell me a reason and she didn't need to smile when she did it. That's all there is to it.
I know it's her own metal and I know the priority. All I'm saying if you bump someone, don't be a dick about it.
I know it's her own metal and I know the priority. All I'm saying if you bump someone, don't be a dick about it.
#8297
BS
After reading his responses, IMHO, Beechedjet is the TOTD in this case and a contender for Tool of the Month.
Summary- BJ whines about his bump and "outs" another pilot on a public forum. We only get "his" side of the story and "his" impressions of the other pilot in what was probably a less than a minute encounter in what sounds like an awkward an stress elevated moment for both parties. His highlighting her on a public forum, especially since she is a member of a small subset of one company is pathetic and whiny. This kind of snap judgment on a persons character is generally the kind of petty crap I've seen for years out of flamboyant, rainbow flag type FA's who treat pilots or fellow co-workers like lepers for an entire 3-day because of one perceived interpersonal infraction.
Both BJ and the other pilot may have displayed non-verbal cues and the other pilot may have stuck her foot in in mouth by accident. From BJ's story, it sounded like she made the effort to explain the best she could, she had an function to attend and BJ made his judgment about the worthiness of her travel plans compared to his. He simply felt more entitled.
We all screw up, and I'm am certainly not above doing so also. We all step on our ####s and unintentionally p-iss others off, big deal. 99% of the time I find out there is other stuff going on or it's a mistake. Both sides in this case may be a little socially inept, especially with a male/female dynamic. BFD.
My suggestion is for BJ to admit he was totally 100% wrong and apologize on this thread.
After reading his responses, IMHO, Beechedjet is the TOTD in this case and a contender for Tool of the Month.
Summary- BJ whines about his bump and "outs" another pilot on a public forum. We only get "his" side of the story and "his" impressions of the other pilot in what was probably a less than a minute encounter in what sounds like an awkward an stress elevated moment for both parties. His highlighting her on a public forum, especially since she is a member of a small subset of one company is pathetic and whiny. This kind of snap judgment on a persons character is generally the kind of petty crap I've seen for years out of flamboyant, rainbow flag type FA's who treat pilots or fellow co-workers like lepers for an entire 3-day because of one perceived interpersonal infraction.
Both BJ and the other pilot may have displayed non-verbal cues and the other pilot may have stuck her foot in in mouth by accident. From BJ's story, it sounded like she made the effort to explain the best she could, she had an function to attend and BJ made his judgment about the worthiness of her travel plans compared to his. He simply felt more entitled.
We all screw up, and I'm am certainly not above doing so also. We all step on our ####s and unintentionally p-iss others off, big deal. 99% of the time I find out there is other stuff going on or it's a mistake. Both sides in this case may be a little socially inept, especially with a male/female dynamic. BFD.
My suggestion is for BJ to admit he was totally 100% wrong and apologize on this thread.
#8299
I will openly appologize for bringing this to a public forum. In the heat of the moment I wrote the initial post I was at the other gate trying to list. I was a annoyed at the situation and I was looking for an outlet to vent. When I hit post it was not soon afterwards I even posted that I sounded like a horse's ass. Anything that happened afterwords is just what happens when people argue on the internet. My opinion is that this could have been handled differently on every end but I only have the option to handle myself.
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