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LNL76 12-24-2012 06:52 AM

Merry Christmas!!
 
Here's hoping everyone gets what they want for Christmas. I got what I wanted----it was actually LOSING something. Ho Ho Ho......... ;)


Merry Christmas everyone. Be safe and have fun whereever you are and whoever you're with. :)

captain152 12-24-2012 07:06 AM

My wife and I celebrated Christmas this past Saturday evening. I started a 4-day trip this morning, and should be home Thursday night. Happy to be able to get others to their family and loved ones for the holidays doing what I love!

Merry Christmas to everyone and may your holidays be filled with happiness :)

RhinoPherret 12-24-2012 07:30 AM

Merry Christmas to everyone!

For all the Scrooges out there; “Your nothing but a blot of mustard, a bit of undigested beef. “ :D

A320fan 12-24-2012 09:19 PM

For those of you who havent' seen it yet...

Santa's checkflight - YouTube

Merry Christmas!

robr 12-24-2012 10:39 PM

Merry Christmas all!

rotorhead1026 12-25-2012 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by RhinoPherret (Post 1318042)
Merry Christmas to everyone!

For all the Scrooges out there; “Your nothing but a blot of mustard, a bit of undigested beef. “ :D

"There's more of gravy than of grave about you!" One of my favorite lines.

And don't forget that, in the end, Scrooge turned out to be a pretty good guy. :)

atpwannabe 12-25-2012 07:12 PM

Merry Christmas; Happy Hanukkah; Happy Kwanza!



atp

Winged Wheeler 12-26-2012 10:45 AM

On Scrooge
 
From economist Steve Landsburg:

Here’s what I like about Ebenezer Scrooge: His meager lodgings were dark because darkness is cheap, and barely heated because coal is not free. His dinner was gruel, which he prepared himself. Scrooge paid no man to wait on him.

Scrooge has been called ungenerous. I say that’s a bum rap. What could be more generous than keeping your lamps unlit and your plate unfilled, leaving more fuel for others to burn and more food for others to eat? Who is a more benevolent neighbor than the man who employs no servants, freeing them to wait on someone else?

Oh, it might be slightly more complicated than that. Maybe when Scrooge demands less coal for his fire, less coal ends up being mined. But that’s fine, too. Instead of digging coal for Scrooge, some would-be miner is now free to perform some other service for himself or someone else.
Dickens tells us that the Lord Mayor, in the stronghold of the mighty Mansion House, gave orders to his 50 cooks and butlers to keep Christmas as a Lord Mayor’s household should—presumably for a houseful of guests who lavishly praised his generosity. The bricks, mortar, and labor that built the Mansion House might otherwise have built housing for hundreds; Scrooge, by living in three sparse rooms, deprived no man of a home. By employing no cooks or butlers, he ensured that cooks and butlers were available to some other household where guests reveled in ignorance of their debt to Ebenezer Scrooge.


In this whole world, there is nobody more generous than the miser—the man who could deplete the world’s resources but chooses not to. The only difference between miserliness and philanthropy is that the philanthropist serves a favored few while the miser spreads his largess far and wide.
If you build a house and refuse to buy a house, the rest of the world is one house richer. If you earn a dollar and refuse to spend a dollar, the rest of the world is one dollar richer—because you produced a dollar’s worth of goods and didn’t consume them.

Who exactly gets those goods? That depends on how you save. Put a dollar in the bank and you’ll bid down the interest rate by just enough so someone somewhere can afford an extra dollar’s worth of vacation or home improvement. Put a dollar in your mattress and (by effectively reducing the money supply) you’ll drive down prices by just enough so someone somewhere can have an extra dollar’s worth of coffee with his dinner. Scrooge, no doubt a canny investor, lent his money at interest. His less conventional namesake Scrooge McDuck filled a vault with dollar bills to roll around in. No matter. Ebenezer Scrooge lowered interest rates. Scrooge McDuck lowered prices. Each Scrooge enriched his neighbors as much as any Lord Mayor who invited the town in for a Christmas meal.

Saving is philanthropy, and—because this is both the Christmas season and the season of tax reform—it’s worth mentioning that the tax system should recognize as much. If there’s a tax deduction for charitable giving, there should be a tax deduction for saving. What you earn and don’t spend is your contribution to the world, and it’s equally a contribution whether you give it away or squirrel it away.

Of course, there’s always the threat that some meddling ghosts will come along and convince you to deplete your savings, at which point it makes sense (insofar as the taxation of income ever makes sense) to start taxing you. Which is exactly what individual retirement accounts are all about: They shield your earnings from taxation for as long as you save (that is, for as long as you let others enjoy the fruits of your labor), but no longer.

Great artists are sometimes unaware of the deepest meanings in their own creations. Though Dickens might not have recognized it, the primary moral of A Christmas Carol is that there should be no limit on IRA contributions. This is quite independent of all the other reasons why the tax system should encourage saving (e.g., the salutary effects on economic growth).
If Christmas is the season of selflessness, then surely one of the great symbols of Christmas should be Ebenezer Scrooge—the old Scrooge, not the reformed one. It’s taxes, not misers, that need reforming.

Merry Christmas at Steven Landsburg | The Big Questions: Tackling the Problems of Philosophy with Ideas from Mathematics, Economics, and Physics


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