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jungle 07-29-2014 02:01 PM

What is ISIS doing?
 
Ever wonder what is going on over there? It seems they like to document everything.

Don't think about looking if you can't handle the truth.

LiveLeak.com - NEW ISIS VIDEO SHOWING BATTLE & EXECUTION FOOTAGE


It is rough, but not any more rough than Europe during WWII, the fact is we haven't advanced very much since then. Civilization is a very thin veneer.

UAL T38 Phlyer 07-29-2014 03:10 PM

My bigger question is why no one is doing anything about it.

jungle 07-29-2014 03:15 PM

Sometimes we have to hang back and let people settle their little differences on their own terms.

This makes it far easier to step in after the dust has settled.

FDXLAG 07-29-2014 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 1694838)
My bigger question is why no one is doing anything about it.

We are to busy stopping the Jewwwws from committing genocide don't you know.

evamodel00 07-29-2014 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1694843)
Sometimes we have to hang back and let people settle their little differences on their own terms.

This makes it far easier to step in after the dust has settled.

not very easy to sit back and watch the end of that video though....

Not sure on the background of it (any of it to be honest), but still. Sucks to watch unarmed civilians (or captured soldiers) get executed and thrown in the water like garbage.

Amjadian 07-29-2014 04:48 PM

What is ISIS doing?
 
I don't even know what to say. But to those that say we should stay out of this and let them settle their own battle, remember; we were supporting ISIS (indirectly) up until last year when they were fighting Asad's regime. So in a way, we are responsible to clean the mess we created.

CBreezy 07-29-2014 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Amjadian (Post 1694899)
I don't even know what to say. But to those that say we should stay out of this and let them settle their own battle, remember; we were supporting ISIS (indirectly) up until last year when they were fighting Asad's regime. So in a way, we are responsible to clean the mess we created.

A civil war in Iraq was destined to happy when we left. it was never an "if." There were too many atrocities that happened under Sadam's watch.

DYNASTY HVY 07-29-2014 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1694802)
Ever wonder what is going on over there? It seems they like to document everything.

Don't think about looking if you can't handle the truth.

LiveLeak.com - NEW ISIS VIDEO SHOWING BATTLE & EXECUTION FOOTAGE


It is rough, but not any more rough than Europe during WWII, the fact is we haven't advanced very much since then. Civilization is a very thin veneer.

Eye opening to say the least and the big question is what happens when these guys get to Baghdad ?

forgot to bid 07-29-2014 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 1694932)
Eye opening to say the least and the big question is what happens when these guys get to Baghdad ?

Then we're screwed.

I get the notion of staying out of religious civil wars but these guys are on a march.

DYNASTY HVY 07-30-2014 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1694976)
Then we're screwed.

I get the notion of staying out of religious civil wars but these guys are on a march.

The question everyone should be asking is why the hell we did'nt recognize the threat that this group posed.

Flightcap 07-30-2014 06:03 AM

The sad part is that if this group were to be defeated, five years later we would see the same radicalism with new faces and a different name. Power is the only thing these guys understand.

brianb 07-30-2014 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Flightcap (Post 1695162)
The sad part is that if this group were to be defeated, five years later we would see the same radicalism with new faces and a different name. Power is the only thing these guys understand.

Get in and stay in or get out and stay out? It appears getting in has strengthened the foundation, once again for the bad guys. If we are going to take over the world and establish a NWO, for Gods sake, do it already and start with the human pieces of crap that murder the innocent.

Timbo 07-30-2014 07:04 AM

I just finished reading this book:

http://www.amazon.com/American-Snipe...+sniper&dpPl=1

It takes place between 1999-2009. He goes into detail about killing the 'bad guys' in Iraq. Seems nothing has changed, except we're not there to kill them any more.

Fluglehrer 07-30-2014 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Flightcap (Post 1695162)
The sad part is that if this group were to be defeated, five years later we would see the same radicalism with new faces and a different name. Power is the only thing these guys understand.

1. What are the requirements to implement a culture of liberty & freedom?
2. What are the requirements to maintain a culture of liberty & freedom?
3. Can a culture of liberty & freedom be implemented and sustained in a Muslim-majority country?

These are questions to ask and have historically valid answers to before throwing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars down the "nation-building" bottomless pit.

brianb 07-30-2014 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Fluglehrer (Post 1695385)
1. What are the requirements to implement a culture of liberty & freedom?
2. What are the requirements to maintain a culture of liberty & freedom?
3. Can a culture of liberty & freedom be implemented and sustained in a Muslim-majority country?

These are questions to ask and have historically valid answers to before throwing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars down the "nation-building" bottomless pit.

The bankers love it.

lear553560ed 07-30-2014 06:25 PM

Why do you think Christopher Columbus sought a western route to the Orient? It was specifically orchestrated by the Church run Government of the day to avoid the Middle East, for the exact same reasons we have today.

Nothing has changed in the 500 plus years nor the previous thousand said years. It amazes me that with all of our countries whizz bang technology, we cannot defeat an enemy that fights with what amounts to sticks and stones by comparison.

The reason "we", the west, will not win is because this an old fight fueled by ideology. You cannot defeat an opponent who believes in the fight, and prefers death as to the status quo. It has always boiled down to a "My religion is better than yours" scenario.

tomgoodman 07-30-2014 09:09 PM

I wonder how many "religious" conflicts were really about grabbing somebody else's stuff, with religion as a convenient excuse. :rolleyes:

ClarenceOver 07-30-2014 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1694802)
Ever wonder what is going on over there? It seems they like to document everything.

Don't think about looking if you can't handle the truth.

LiveLeak.com - NEW ISIS VIDEO SHOWING BATTLE & EXECUTION FOOTAGE


It is rough, but not any more rough than Europe during WWII, the fact is we haven't advanced very much since then. Civilization is a very thin veneer.

nwo will make ww2 look like disney land.

Thedude 07-30-2014 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by lear553560ed (Post 1695725)
Why do you think Christopher Columbus sought a western route to the Orient? It was specifically orchestrated by the Church run Government of the day to avoid the Middle East, for the exact same reasons we have today.

Nothing has changed in the 500 plus years nor the previous thousand said years. It amazes me that with all of our countries whizz bang technology, we cannot defeat an enemy that fights with what amounts to sticks and stones by comparison.

The reason "we", the west, will not win is because this an old fight fueled by ideology. You cannot defeat an opponent who believes in the fight, and prefers death as to the status quo. It has always boiled down to a "My religion is better than yours" scenario.

We can defeat them on a base line type attack of the Kubla Khan type strategy but current Western "ideologies" would not allow it.

80ktsClamp 07-30-2014 10:22 PM

What's with the temple things that they are blowing up after they clear the area? Looks like those are shrines to martyrs of some sort.

And those are US built MRAPS that they are driving, right?

jungle 07-30-2014 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Fluglehrer (Post 1695385)
1. What are the requirements to implement a culture of liberty & freedom?
2. What are the requirements to maintain a culture of liberty & freedom?
3. Can a culture of liberty & freedom be implemented and sustained in a Muslim-majority country?

These are questions to ask and have historically valid answers to before throwing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars down the "nation-building" bottomless pit.

One might well ask if liberty and freedom may be implemented and sustained in any country.

I have seen no proof that it may.

ClarenceOver 07-31-2014 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1695856)
One might well ask if liberty and freedom may be implemented and sustained in any country.

I have seen no proof that it may.

freedom will be sustained throughout the world eventually. but its something that cant be talked about without violating tos.

Fluglehrer 07-31-2014 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1695856)
One might well ask if liberty and freedom may be implemented and sustained in any country.

I have seen no proof that it may.


Originally Posted by ClarenceOver (Post 1695872)
freedom will be sustained throughout the world eventually. but its something that cant be talked about without violating tos.

Jungle, always the optimist. Remember Hamlet: ""I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams." Dream a little. Imagine all the people.... (okay, maybe not that dreamer)

Clarence, as a member of the Pope's Legions, I agree.

Beaver Hunter 07-31-2014 11:04 AM

Those people are animals. They have one thing right. Is you must eliminate your enemy. Something we in the west refuse to do. We spank you and then give you new toys. We in the west are watching the beginnings of our extinction. Why?

DonConsult67 07-31-2014 11:15 AM

One plane, one bomb, one mission. Simple solution thats already been tested and succeeded.

jungle 07-31-2014 04:19 PM

“The difficulty, my friends, is not in avoiding death, but in avoiding unrighteousness; for that runs faster than death.”
― Plato, Apology


"Only the dead have seen the end of war.”
― Plato

ClarenceOver 07-31-2014 04:24 PM

i know not what ww3 will be fought with but i know what ww4 will be fought with. sticks and stones.

Yazzoo 08-01-2014 01:24 AM

Following suit...

http://fungerms.com/wp-content/uploa...oln+quotes.jpg

DYNASTY HVY 08-05-2014 04:05 AM

Islamic State militants fight for Iraq's two biggest dams | Fox News

block30 08-07-2014 05:55 PM

The prelude to something bigger? Too little too late?

US conducts mission to drop humanitarian aid in Iraq | Fox News

And it sounds like IS has now taken the dam. Great.

Sum Ting Wong 08-07-2014 06:20 PM

Insiders say that Obama will order massive air strikes and even several army divisions into action if ISIS invades northern Mexico and tries to shut off the flow of Mexicans and Central Americans into America.


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