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What is ISIS doing?
Ever wonder what is going on over there? It seems they like to document everything.
Don't think about looking if you can't handle the truth. LiveLeak.com - NEW ISIS VIDEO SHOWING BATTLE & EXECUTION FOOTAGE It is rough, but not any more rough than Europe during WWII, the fact is we haven't advanced very much since then. Civilization is a very thin veneer. |
My bigger question is why no one is doing anything about it.
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Sometimes we have to hang back and let people settle their little differences on their own terms.
This makes it far easier to step in after the dust has settled. |
Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
(Post 1694838)
My bigger question is why no one is doing anything about it.
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Originally Posted by jungle
(Post 1694843)
Sometimes we have to hang back and let people settle their little differences on their own terms.
This makes it far easier to step in after the dust has settled. Not sure on the background of it (any of it to be honest), but still. Sucks to watch unarmed civilians (or captured soldiers) get executed and thrown in the water like garbage. |
What is ISIS doing?
I don't even know what to say. But to those that say we should stay out of this and let them settle their own battle, remember; we were supporting ISIS (indirectly) up until last year when they were fighting Asad's regime. So in a way, we are responsible to clean the mess we created.
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Originally Posted by Amjadian
(Post 1694899)
I don't even know what to say. But to those that say we should stay out of this and let them settle their own battle, remember; we were supporting ISIS (indirectly) up until last year when they were fighting Asad's regime. So in a way, we are responsible to clean the mess we created.
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Originally Posted by jungle
(Post 1694802)
Ever wonder what is going on over there? It seems they like to document everything.
Don't think about looking if you can't handle the truth. LiveLeak.com - NEW ISIS VIDEO SHOWING BATTLE & EXECUTION FOOTAGE It is rough, but not any more rough than Europe during WWII, the fact is we haven't advanced very much since then. Civilization is a very thin veneer. |
Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY
(Post 1694932)
Eye opening to say the least and the big question is what happens when these guys get to Baghdad ?
I get the notion of staying out of religious civil wars but these guys are on a march. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1694976)
Then we're screwed.
I get the notion of staying out of religious civil wars but these guys are on a march. |
The sad part is that if this group were to be defeated, five years later we would see the same radicalism with new faces and a different name. Power is the only thing these guys understand.
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
(Post 1695162)
The sad part is that if this group were to be defeated, five years later we would see the same radicalism with new faces and a different name. Power is the only thing these guys understand.
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I just finished reading this book:
http://www.amazon.com/American-Snipe...+sniper&dpPl=1 It takes place between 1999-2009. He goes into detail about killing the 'bad guys' in Iraq. Seems nothing has changed, except we're not there to kill them any more. |
Originally Posted by Flightcap
(Post 1695162)
The sad part is that if this group were to be defeated, five years later we would see the same radicalism with new faces and a different name. Power is the only thing these guys understand.
2. What are the requirements to maintain a culture of liberty & freedom? 3. Can a culture of liberty & freedom be implemented and sustained in a Muslim-majority country? These are questions to ask and have historically valid answers to before throwing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars down the "nation-building" bottomless pit. |
Originally Posted by Fluglehrer
(Post 1695385)
1. What are the requirements to implement a culture of liberty & freedom?
2. What are the requirements to maintain a culture of liberty & freedom? 3. Can a culture of liberty & freedom be implemented and sustained in a Muslim-majority country? These are questions to ask and have historically valid answers to before throwing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars down the "nation-building" bottomless pit. |
Why do you think Christopher Columbus sought a western route to the Orient? It was specifically orchestrated by the Church run Government of the day to avoid the Middle East, for the exact same reasons we have today.
Nothing has changed in the 500 plus years nor the previous thousand said years. It amazes me that with all of our countries whizz bang technology, we cannot defeat an enemy that fights with what amounts to sticks and stones by comparison. The reason "we", the west, will not win is because this an old fight fueled by ideology. You cannot defeat an opponent who believes in the fight, and prefers death as to the status quo. It has always boiled down to a "My religion is better than yours" scenario. |
I wonder how many "religious" conflicts were really about grabbing somebody else's stuff, with religion as a convenient excuse. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by jungle
(Post 1694802)
Ever wonder what is going on over there? It seems they like to document everything.
Don't think about looking if you can't handle the truth. LiveLeak.com - NEW ISIS VIDEO SHOWING BATTLE & EXECUTION FOOTAGE It is rough, but not any more rough than Europe during WWII, the fact is we haven't advanced very much since then. Civilization is a very thin veneer. |
Originally Posted by lear553560ed
(Post 1695725)
Why do you think Christopher Columbus sought a western route to the Orient? It was specifically orchestrated by the Church run Government of the day to avoid the Middle East, for the exact same reasons we have today.
Nothing has changed in the 500 plus years nor the previous thousand said years. It amazes me that with all of our countries whizz bang technology, we cannot defeat an enemy that fights with what amounts to sticks and stones by comparison. The reason "we", the west, will not win is because this an old fight fueled by ideology. You cannot defeat an opponent who believes in the fight, and prefers death as to the status quo. It has always boiled down to a "My religion is better than yours" scenario. |
What's with the temple things that they are blowing up after they clear the area? Looks like those are shrines to martyrs of some sort.
And those are US built MRAPS that they are driving, right? |
Originally Posted by Fluglehrer
(Post 1695385)
1. What are the requirements to implement a culture of liberty & freedom?
2. What are the requirements to maintain a culture of liberty & freedom? 3. Can a culture of liberty & freedom be implemented and sustained in a Muslim-majority country? These are questions to ask and have historically valid answers to before throwing hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars down the "nation-building" bottomless pit. I have seen no proof that it may. |
Originally Posted by jungle
(Post 1695856)
One might well ask if liberty and freedom may be implemented and sustained in any country.
I have seen no proof that it may. |
Originally Posted by jungle
(Post 1695856)
One might well ask if liberty and freedom may be implemented and sustained in any country.
I have seen no proof that it may.
Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
(Post 1695872)
freedom will be sustained throughout the world eventually. but its something that cant be talked about without violating tos.
Clarence, as a member of the Pope's Legions, I agree. |
Those people are animals. They have one thing right. Is you must eliminate your enemy. Something we in the west refuse to do. We spank you and then give you new toys. We in the west are watching the beginnings of our extinction. Why?
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One plane, one bomb, one mission. Simple solution thats already been tested and succeeded.
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“The difficulty, my friends, is not in avoiding death, but in avoiding unrighteousness; for that runs faster than death.”
― Plato, Apology "Only the dead have seen the end of war.” ― Plato |
i know not what ww3 will be fought with but i know what ww4 will be fought with. sticks and stones.
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The prelude to something bigger? Too little too late?
US conducts mission to drop humanitarian aid in Iraq | Fox News And it sounds like IS has now taken the dam. Great. |
Insiders say that Obama will order massive air strikes and even several army divisions into action if ISIS invades northern Mexico and tries to shut off the flow of Mexicans and Central Americans into America.
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