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Tobruk 06-16-2015 05:06 PM

Jumpseating checking a firearm on Airways
 
I'm jumpseating tomorrow and was going to check a firearm with airways express and was wondering if 1) anyone has done this or 2) anyone knows if it's the same protocol as if I were a regular PAX
Thanks!

Snarge 06-17-2015 05:47 AM

There are some things one shouldn't do while jumpseating. This is one.

Don't make it hard for the rest of us that use the JS to move around with out our guns, kids, pets, furniture, surf boards, power tools, etc....

rickair7777 06-17-2015 07:03 AM

Probably less confusing to simply buy a zed.

RadialGal 06-17-2015 04:09 PM

I have bought a few guns here in Alaska as gifts for family members, then jumpseated to visit them. I agree with the previous posters, I didn't wish to upset the jumpseat-Gods, so I simply sent them along via a dealer and jumseated my happy gun-less butt along. I never want to be "that gal" who causes my company to loose jump privileges. Just my .02.

RadialGal

Airhoss 06-22-2015 06:42 PM

I've done it multiple times up to Alaska. There is absolutely no difference at the ticket counter if you are pass riding or jump seating. But if you are worried just buy a pass. If you need to jump seat do so at the gate after your gun is safely checked in. This is not a big deal.

PerfInit 06-23-2015 05:49 AM

Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there a federal law on firearm purchases (along with BATF form 4473) which requires that the original purchaser must be the legal owner of said firearm?

Airhoss 06-23-2015 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by PerfInit (Post 1913078)
Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there a federal law on firearm purchases (along with BATF form 4473) which requires that the original purchaser must be the legal owner of said firearm?

Yes and after you buy it you can legally transfer that firearm to anybody you wish as long as that person can legally own a firearm. If your state is run by communists, like Colorado and requires a background check for all transfers then simply go down to a gun store and have one done.

No big deal.

NotPart91 06-25-2015 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1913110)
Yes and after you buy it you can legally transfer that firearm to anybody you wish as long as that person can legally own a firearm. If your state is run by communists, like Colorado and requires a background check for all transfers then simply go down to a gun store and have one done.

No big deal.

No, it potentially NOW can be a big deal.

Have you seen this 2013 case;

ABRAMSKI v. UNITED STATES

In the case of Abramski v. United States the Court ruled in effect that the Virginia man; a former police officer purchasing the firearm at a discounted price, was acting as agent for the true buyer-his uncle. By declaring he was the “actual buyer” on the Form 4473, the Virginia man violated straw purchase law, because in effect he was acting as an agent for his uncle who had provided the funds for the purchase.
Abramski v. United StatesAbramski v. United States

Tobruk 06-27-2015 09:46 AM

Piece of cake....checked a lower and filled out the form...it was red tagged in case I missed the flight. That was it

Airhoss 06-27-2015 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by NotPart91 (Post 1915628)
No, it potentially NOW can be a big deal.

Have you seen this 2013 case;

ABRAMSKI v. UNITED STATES

In the case of Abramski v. United States the Court ruled in effect that the Virginia man; a former police officer purchasing the firearm at a discounted price, was acting as agent for the true buyer-his uncle. By declaring he was the “actual buyer” on the Form 4473, the Virginia man violated straw purchase law, because in effect he was acting as an agent for his uncle who had provided the funds for the purchase.
Abramski v. United StatesAbramski v. United States

So if you are worried about it, take said firearm down to a dealer and transfer it to the recipient via a form 4473.


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