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iceman49 09-07-2015 01:37 PM

F/A suspended for not serving alcohol
 
Muslim flight attendant says she was wrongly suspended - StarTribune.com

RI830 09-07-2015 03:57 PM

What's next? This can be the start of a very slippery slope.
Georgia is a right to work state.

mike734 09-07-2015 04:24 PM

Has any pilot ever gotten away with not working on the Sabbath?

LNL76 09-08-2015 02:39 AM

Biggest bunch of bs I've heard in a while. When applying for a FA job, one of the initial questions on the app references serving alcohol. IF she said she was ok with it and changed religion, tough titties. That's a pretty slippery slope she's on. What's next, refusing to serve Christians, Jews....all non-Muslims?

She should apply to the ME carriers. I'm sure they'd be happy to employ such a dutiful servant. OR, she can just change jobs!

:rolleyes:

SayAlt 09-08-2015 03:32 AM

Yeah, screw that woman's 1st Amendment rights and her freedom to exercise her religious beliefs! I want my drink and my "right to drink alcohol"/not be inconvenienced is more important than her 1st Amendment protected rights to observe and faithfully follow her religion. And let's just nevermind I could get it from another FA, I demand it from her!

/sarc & disgust

I checked and nowhere in the Constitution is anything written about rights to alcohol. Nor marriage, ftm. But there is a lot about Freedom of/to Religion for anyone who cares to look. It's in the 1st Amendment to the Bill of Rights, codified and adopted into the document in 1793.

SayAlt 09-08-2015 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by RI830 (Post 1966185)

blah blah SNARK blah blah


Funny how those who aren't religious don't care a single iota about the Constitutionally protected rights of those who are religious.

But you can damn well believe they care about their 1st Amendment rights to the freedom to speech and assemble.

LNL76 09-08-2015 03:50 AM

Sigh.....a condition of her employment is to not have objections to serving alcohol. SHE changed her view on it when she converted. No one is forcing her to keep a job that goes against her religion. She's free to leave anytime she wants. Her coworkers are under no obligation to pick up her slack. End of story.

LNL76 09-08-2015 03:52 AM

Btw, who are YOU to judge who's religious and who's not based on their views on this issue? VERY UN-Christian, if you ask me.

SayAlt 09-08-2015 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 1966455)
Sigh.....a condition of her employment is to not have objections to serving alcohol. SHE changed her view on it when she converted. No one is forcing her to keep a job that goes against her religion. She's free to leave anytime she wants. Her coworkers are under no obligation to pick up her slack. End of story.



Sigh......her employer is obligated to obey the law, and part of the law is the 1st Amendment and the protected rights within it. It has NOTHING to do with when she changed her religious beliefs. Her co-workers are also required, BY LAW, to respect and give her her 1st Amendment rights. End of story.



Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 1966458)
Btw, who are YOU to judge who's religious and who's not based on their views on this issue? VERY UN-Christian, if you ask me.


My defense of her has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. It has everything to do WITH THE LAW, the 1st Amendment, her Freedom to Religion, as adopted into the Bill of Rights in the VERY 1ST AMENDMENT in 1793.


And no one asked you, either.

LNL76 09-08-2015 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 1966467)
Sigh......her employer is obligated to obey the law, and part of the law is the 1st Amendment and the protected rights within it. It has NOTHING to do with when she changed her religious beliefs. Her co-workers are also required, BY LAW, to respect and give her her 1st Amendment rights. End of story.

You're out to lunch on this one. I honestly don't think you're a pilot or in the industry. A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT, WHICH SHE AGREED TO, IS TO SERVE ALCOHOL. She backs out of it, she gets suspended. Same as if a crew member refused to work on their sabbath or religious holiday.

NO ONE is denying her religious rights. She can't use her religion as a reason to be derelict in her duties. The END.


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