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Old 09-04-2017, 06:50 PM
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Hi does anybody know what is the after tax first year income, like not 36x75$, like with per diem, real average (credit) hours after taxes? How much is going to the account every month? Thanks
2000tt, 1800 a320, college degree, all international experience ... Any chances??
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Question: why did the Hawaiian pilots choose not to look out for new hires
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Question: why did the Hawaiian pilots choose not to look out for new hires
I think most, especially the senior ones think because they had to do it, so should the new hires. Usually if it's ever brought up while flying it's followed by a "well it my day it was 1700 salary a month or some low amount" so that somehow justifies it in their minds.
And with 20-30 years at the job, faced with a significant upgrade in pay for them, first year pay is not a concerns so why vote it down. Uy

The unions position is that it's the companies job to set pay for the first year, although they also said they put significant money towards an trying to increase for first year... apparently not enough (pun intended)

I don't see anything changing unless people don't show up for class/interviews etc but from what I can tell seems like there are people lined up.
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I think most, especially the senior ones think because they had to do it, so should the new hires. Usually if it's ever brought up while flying it's followed by a "well it my day it was 1700 salary a month or some low amount" so that somehow justifies it in their minds.
And with 20-30 years at the job, faced with a significant upgrade in pay for them, first year pay is not a concerns so why vote it down. Uy

The unions position is that it's the companies job to set pay for the first year, although they also said they put significant money towards an trying to increase for first year... apparently not enough (pun intended)

I don't see anything changing unless people don't show up for class/interviews etc but from what I can tell seems like there are people lined up.

Sad. Simple case of pulling the ladder up behind you. I had it bad so future generations should too. What a joke. Pilots applying to Hawaiian are done paying dues. These are experienced pilots not kids with a wet commercial.
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It is sad, however the union tried to change it. Certainly not worth rejecting a contract on this one issue.
Management can up the first year pay at any time. It is certainly short-sighted not to.
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Does anyone have any information on the initial post, by chance? Income after tax?
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Does anyone have any information on the initial post, by chance? Income after tax?
Yes. It varies by what state you're a resident of and how many withholding exemptions you're claiming on state and federal W-4 forms.
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It is sad, however the union tried to change it. Certainly not worth rejecting a contract on this one issue.
Management can up the first year pay at any time. It is certainly short-sighted not to.
Imo it IS worth rejecting a contract on THIS ONE issue.
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Take home is about 1k per paycheck...
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Take home is about 1k per paycheck...
Houston we have a problem!
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