Commuting from other islands
10-31-2018, 04:20 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian 5O
Funny you mention that. A few years ago I questioned our last Jumpseat committee guy (CP) about Delta’s JS Language and asked why we didn’t have something similar.
He explained ours was better and gave me the reasons why he thought so. Without remembering all of the inns and outs, I agreed with him at the time and still do. I’m very happy with what we have. It works fine. If it ain’t broke...
He explained ours was better and gave me the reasons why he thought so. Without remembering all of the inns and outs, I agreed with him at the time and still do. I’m very happy with what we have. It works fine. If it ain’t broke...
all of our ETOPS a/c have two jumpseats, which for the most part is plenty..
And we do a large number of flights inter island, get bumped from one flight...wait 20 minutes, sometime 10 minutes, for the next one...hell we do nearly 30 flights between Maui and Oahu alone.
Our system works well for us....are there better? Probably, but for the type and frequency of our flights, it is very easy to plan a commute or travel...I wouldn't waste any negotiating capital on our jumpseat system
10-31-2018, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairfun
What many do not understand, Hawaiian is not a large airline and we don't have 5 pilots trying to jumpseat from one large hub to another...
all of our ETOPS a/c have two jumpseats, which for the most part is plenty..
And we do a large number of flights inter island, get bumped from one flight...wait 20 minutes, sometime 10 minutes, for the next one...hell we do nearly 30 flights between Maui and Oahu alone.
Our system works well for us....are there better? Probably, but for the type and frequency of our flights, it is very easy to plan a commute or travel...I wouldn't waste any negotiating capital on our jumpseat system
all of our ETOPS a/c have two jumpseats, which for the most part is plenty..
And we do a large number of flights inter island, get bumped from one flight...wait 20 minutes, sometime 10 minutes, for the next one...hell we do nearly 30 flights between Maui and Oahu alone.
Our system works well for us....are there better? Probably, but for the type and frequency of our flights, it is very easy to plan a commute or travel...I wouldn't waste any negotiating capital on our jumpseat system
11-01-2018, 04:27 PM
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^^^ Look at the bright side. Considering that commuting sucks, full flights are a good thing. If they were empty, we would be worried about losing our jobs and/or pulling out of that market. Full airplanes are not something to complain about.
Commute from Midwest Mainland?
11-06-2018, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent
Are there many mainland commuters? Just wondering how crazy that would be and if you guys think a mainland base will ever open up again?
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There are quite a bit of commuters, on the order of ~25% of the pilots by my estimation. I wouldn’t commute, but I guess they make it work. It’s roughly a transcon commute across the US. I wouldn’t plan on a mainland base, I’ve never even heard a crew lounge rumor about reopening one.
11-07-2018, 11:37 AM
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Commuting from other islands
Deleted and starting from scratch. I’ll try to be more diplomatic.
IMHO... There will only be a mainland base if we ever merged with somebody based in the US. Short of that, I would not hold my breath. Haleys comet will probably make a return first.
The commute here from the West Coast is the same distance as commuting from LA to Miami. I hope that puts everything in perspective.
IMHO... There will only be a mainland base if we ever merged with somebody based in the US. Short of that, I would not hold my breath. Haleys comet will probably make a return first.
The commute here from the West Coast is the same distance as commuting from LA to Miami. I hope that puts everything in perspective.
11-08-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian 5O
Deleted and starting from scratch. I’ll try to be more diplomatic.
IMHO... There will only be a mainland base if we ever merged with somebody based in the US. Short of that, I would not hold my breath. Haleys comet will probably make a return first.
The commute here from the West Coast is the same distance as commuting from LA to Miami. I hope that puts everything in perspective.
IMHO... There will only be a mainland base if we ever merged with somebody based in the US. Short of that, I would not hold my breath. Haleys comet will probably make a return first.
The commute here from the West Coast is the same distance as commuting from LA to Miami. I hope that puts everything in perspective.
11-08-2018, 09:39 PM
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That's the $64.000 question because that's probably what you need to survive Crash pad and commute, drain some out of the savings, credit cards are among the ways.
As long as resumes keep coming in, don't expect it to change.
I'm sure everyone here thinks it's so wrong its not even funny, management has shown no signs of relenting.
As long as resumes keep coming in, don't expect it to change.
I'm sure everyone here thinks it's so wrong its not even funny, management has shown no signs of relenting.
11-08-2018, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
But how in the world does anyone afford to live on the islands on FO pay? My wife's a stay at home mom, not a CEO.
Looking at spirit and JetBlue rates plus time to upgrade, I’d dare say you’d have more money in your pocket at those LCCs than coming here once you factor in cost of living.
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