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#31
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Someone once said:
Top of the pay scale is what your union thinks you’re worth. The first year pay is what the company thinks you’re worth.
I think there’s a lot of truth in that. I’m at Southwest and was hired before our current contract. As I recall it was the company that approached the union about disproportionally increasing the first year pay, and the reason was to stem the attrition of first year pilots.
Top of the pay scale is what your union thinks you’re worth. The first year pay is what the company thinks you’re worth.
I think there’s a lot of truth in that. I’m at Southwest and was hired before our current contract. As I recall it was the company that approached the union about disproportionally increasing the first year pay, and the reason was to stem the attrition of first year pilots.
when a Company negotiates they usually have a number in mind for total pilot payroll. It is up to the union to negotiate how they distribute that pot among the pilot group. All it would have taken would be for the union to lower the top rates a little bit and add that to the first year pay. Top guys would never even notice it, but it would make a big difference to first year pay. and then you could stop saying Mesa first year pilots make more than a first year HAL pilot.
#32
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
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What is Mesa’s 12 year pay and how many years are you going to spend There?
At Hawaiian it’s over $300 an hour and over 20 years for a pilot hired in their 30s.
I also believe it is about what the Company thinks and or wants to pay. Hawaiian is special with the only pilot base in the islands. It’s also special as the company claims to be one big happy family but if I were born into a family that didn’t feed me my first year I might spend the next 30 a bit less than happy.
At Hawaiian it’s over $300 an hour and over 20 years for a pilot hired in their 30s.
I also believe it is about what the Company thinks and or wants to pay. Hawaiian is special with the only pilot base in the islands. It’s also special as the company claims to be one big happy family but if I were born into a family that didn’t feed me my first year I might spend the next 30 a bit less than happy.
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