Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1524368)

And my question is this. How can someone who is not part of a community presume to know what is good for that community? What are your pilot credentials?

I didn't intend to engage beyond my first comment, but your response reeks of disingenuity, dishonesty, insincerity, or hypocrisy -- I'm not sure which, but none are good.




So let's just skip the big words and say, that's not true.

Tapatalk is something that "is good for the community and it will increase engagement."

When a participant at the other Pro Pilot forum approached the Administrator with the idea of installing the Tapatalk plugin so users could use the app, it was installed the very same day. That Forum runs on the latest version of vBulletin and the latest version of Tapatalk, and the result is more people have more access to the Forums, and there's no thread where people complain about the limited or broken features of a home-built smartphone app.

Same thing happened with ForumRunner. User asks, Administrator responds. (Bonus: Starting with vBulletin 4.1.12, ForumRunner is built in.)

The thing is, the decision to not use Tapatalk here has nothing to do with what "is good for the community and will increase engagement." It has to do with the fact that Internet Brands now OWNS ForumRunner, so it would be a conflict of BUSINESS interest to run a competing app on an Internet Brands Forum.

The first sentence of the first post of this thread exclaims, "Whatever the reason for not using tap talk it's not good enough." You've conveniently failed to address that issue, and instead made excuses for why the current app falls short. That's a dollars and cents decision that makes NO common sense, and it has nothing to do with what "is good for the community and it will increase engagement."

That's just the truth.


Finally, and I'll hush.



If you were a part of the community, or knew anything about it, you would know that pilots always complain. It's part of our DNA. If pilots grumbling will keep you from making improvements, there will never be any. ;)


Upgrade vBulletin, install Tapatalk, pilots will whine, and then they'll be happy again.

Or not..

Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1524368)

The thing is, the decision to not use Tapatalk here has nothing to do with what "is good for the community and will increase engagement." It has to do with the fact that Internet Brands now OWNS ForumRunner, so it would be a conflict of BUSINESS interest to run a competing app on an Internet Brands Forum.

The first sentence of the first post of this thread exclaims, "Whatever the reason for not using tap talk it's not good enough." You've conveniently failed to address that issue, and instead made excuses for why the current app falls short. That's a dollars and cents decision that makes NO common sense, and it has nothing to do with what "is good for the community and it will increase engagement."

That's just the truth.

Finally, and I'll hush.

If you were a part of the community, or knew anything about it, you would know that pilots always complain. It's part of our DNA. If pilots grumbling will keep you from making improvements, there will never be any. ;)

Upgrade vBulletin, install Tapatalk, pilots will whine, and then they'll be happy again.

Or not.
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Originally Posted by Gilbola (Post 1524498)

I think this whole tapatalk decision from about 3 years ago was previously addressed elsewhere in the forum ...

Originally Posted by Gilbola (Post 1524498)

... but just to clarify, we went with a custom-built mobile app rather than pay a third party ...

Originally Posted by Gilbola (Post 1524498)

... ultimately we made the rational business decision that we would prefer to ... hopefully build a better product.

Originally Posted by Gilbola (Post 1524498)

This all pre-dates our ownership of ForumRunner ...

Originally Posted by Gilbola (Post 1524498)

Even if we went with tapatalk, by your own admission you'd probably be grumbling about that too so clearly there's no winning with you TonyC.

Originally Posted by Gilbola (Post 1524498)

... we still push forward ... in direct consultation with the moderators (i.e. pilots) and Admins (the pilot founders of APCF who are still actively engaged in running the community, fyi).

Originally Posted by Gilbola (Post 1532381)

i see the expanded white space which is for the quick reply area. Are you still experiencing the bugs previously reported?

Originally Posted by CaptainCarl (Post 1534651)

Nope but numerous news ones have shown their ugly little heads:

1. Lots of space below some posts that isn't put there by the poster.
2. Overlapping text from one post onto the next.
3. Inability to read posts in their entirety when a single post is selected for reading. It cuts off the last few lines of text.
4. App doesn't not recognize non-English symbols (e.g. pasión typed via the app produces pasión). No bueno, señor :cool:

I'd take screen shots and stuff but that's a little more time-consuming than I'm willing to work considering this is pro bono.

Also, I put in quite a few updates to my airline's profile and still haven't seen any changes. Brandi knows about it, said she'd try to get whoever's in charge of that to contact me but I haven't heard from her/them either. I'd keep it super up-to-date, you guys just gotta give me the opportunity.