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Old 12-13-2018, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87 View Post
Living in base at JB is a pretty good deal. Commuting not so much, but that can be said about anywhere. 3rd year JB 320 FO, pulled in around $160K with 360 hours of block. Half reserve and half bidding a line. Schedules went to **** post CBA. Money is good, but no respect from management, be ready to be treated like a child. Captains authority has been eroded here. Come to work, collect the checks and go home.
Living in base is king at Jetblue. I'm the same way, during the slow months I'll bid reserve and hopefully will only have to drive in a couple times a month.

3rd year 190 FO, planning on about 150K next year. My 2018-W2 will be 120K (most of the year at 2nd yr pay pre-CBA rates). I probably credit almost double my actual block flying with soft time, deadheads, VDA/RSAs. The flying tends to get more messed up on the 190 side due to the nature of flying, so there's some good opportunities to be had....again only available really if you live in base.
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Old 12-13-2018, 03:07 PM
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K4 you would fly your butt off, but make more money. As a second year FO on the 74 I made 180k. Then upgraded at year 2.5 and will make well over 200 this year. Each year I fly around 800-900 hours, but a lot of people time out.
The schedules are non existent since you don’t fly your line. You bid for days off. You will have no idea where you are going until the day prior.
The management is actually pretty good since the CP has your back. Retirement sucks, but that is the #1 issue on the next contract.
You WILL be gone for the entire 16 days, so if that’s an issue go to JB
Did you have to work extra days for 180k? How did you get to that number on 800-900 hours?
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Old 12-13-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke View Post
K4 you would fly your butt off, but make more money. As a second year FO on the 74 I made 180k. Then upgraded at year 2.5 and will make well over 200 this year. Each year I fly around 800-900 hours, but a lot of people time out.
The schedules are non existent since you don’t fly your line. You bid for days off. You will have no idea where you are going until the day prior.
The management is actually pretty good since the CP has your back. Retirement sucks, but that is the #1 issue on the next contract.
You WILL be gone for the entire 16 days, so if that’s an issue go to JB
So if you made $180k subtract $18k for the difference in retirement. Now you're down to $162k. That retirement is a HUGE difference... Once you start cracking $200k at K4 the company contributions for retirement go to 0% and the gap widens to 15% instead of just 10%.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:33 PM
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So if you made $180k subtract $18k for the difference in retirement. Now you're down to $162k. That retirement is a HUGE difference... Once you start cracking $200k at K4 the company contributions for retirement go to 0% and the gap widens to 15% instead of just 10%.
$162k 2nd year sounds pretty nice to me. And I can compound 18k faster than a retirement fund.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 55555 View Post
Did you have to work extra days for 180k? How did you get to that number on 800-900 hours?
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Yes, it requires overtime and high value lines. Billing 100+ hours per month doesn’t mean flying 100 hours.
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:44 AM
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$162k 2nd year sounds pretty nice to me. And I can compound 18k faster than a retirement fund.
K4 is a great place to go right now. I've told several friends to put in there. No way I'd stay there. I might consider staying at Jet Blue right now because they get the retirement and the schedules are more family friendly once you live in base. I'm at FedEx so I'm good...
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