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Old 03-25-2005, 10:44 AM   #1  
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Default Singapore hiring Captains

We don't have the full pay scales yet, therefore no dedicated page for Singapore - although they are hiring CAPTAINS. A recent email from one of our sources gives an accurate profile for expat. compensation.

There is mention of F/O positions on the SIN web site, although we have no details on expat. hiring for those positions. Our sources tell us that SIN only hires expat. Captains. More details here: SIN flight crew hiring

"...[a recent new hire] only had an Airbus 320 rating, they accepted him on the 777...Normally, 2000 hours of wide body captain was the minimum. They don't hire copilots. Singapore Cargo does but I would not recommend that job to anyone.

SIA contracts are really different. I'll just give the ex-pat version since your readers will fall into that category. These are all in Sing dollars, about 1.6 these days. I am using a 75 hour month which is about right.

777 captain monthly Base Pay: 9300. Plus a variable component 750. Plus 1000 ex-pat bonus. May or may not hold with the new contract. Variable component is a complex formula that has been forced on all Singapore by the gov't. If the company makes money, the 16.5% they withheld, comes all back. One as a monthly component and then a separate annual component. 750x12.

In Flight Allowance: productivity pay 82.50/hr x 75= 6187.50

Meal allowance: average 2000

So total base before allowances: 19237.50

Allowances: housing 3100; education 700/child

Retirement bonus: 50,000 (5 yr. contract)

Annual bonus: 3 months base pay 27900

Company paid loss of license=300,000 (60K/yr)

Free medical. Co-pay after a minimum number of doc visits. Small co-pay for hospitalization, etc. Can purchase inexpensive family insurance and add-on insurance to basic company hospitalization.

Total monthly with two kids: 23728.50. Might be a bit on the high side. Say 22,000/mo which includes all allowances.

Taxes are 18-20%. No withholding. Gov't just sends a bill. For US citizens the first 80,000 is not declared as US income. Also any foreign tax paid can be used to offset the total US tax bill.

So, say 22,000/mo x 12 mos= 264000. Plus the annual variable is 9000. Plus the 3 mos. bonus 27,900.

Annual total= 300,900. Plus the retirement bonus of 50,000 at the end of the contract.

Cost of living: nice 3 bdrm condo 3000/mo. Schools at 1500/mo per kid private school. Food and utilities are cheap, cars are outrageously expensive. Don't need one unless you are a xenophobe. In that case, don't come out here!..."
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. . . . . . . . .cars are outrageously expensive. Don't need one unless you are a xenophobe. In that case, don't come out here!..."
OK. . part of my heritage is Irish. Some think the Irish are “thick”. Perhaps that is my problem <G>. WHAT the Hell does enjoying the freedom “wheels” gives you have to do with xenophobia? I don’t see any connection, not that not having one where public transport was decent, would keep me from coming. BUT . . I don’t get the connection you are tying to make. .sorry.

While on the topic. Will they hire “over 60” types?
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Don't shoot the messenger

I guess I should have omitted that part of the message, although having ridden many trains and subways throughout Asia, I think I know what he's talking about. But then again, most public transportation around the world smells like that.

As a follow up, I asked if there were longevity increases, here's the reply:

"...there are no longevity increases for ex-pat contracts. They are five year and 3 year fixed deals..."

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Haven’t even considered unslinging the weapon . .yet<G> . . . I just want to know if I am stupid for not “getting” what part of the American love of “wheels” and the freedom driving brings equates to xenophobia?

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. . then again, most public transportation around the world smells like that.
Again . . what the hell does THAT have to do with racism?

Anyway .. my real question was . .since they are flying mainly into countries that don’t have the discriminatory practice of “Age 60”
. . will they hire Captains over 60?
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Again . . what the hell does THAT have to do with racism?
While I didn't write that brief, I do know that guy who did, I know he was not coming at it from a racisit point of view, just the standard Merriam-Webster definition:

xe·no·phobe: one unduly fearful of what is foreign and especially of people of foreign origin.
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Anyway .. my real question was . .since they are flying mainly into countries that don’t have the discriminatory practice of “Age 60”
. . will they hire Captains over 60?
Oops, almost forgot to answer the important question. I'll ask about age 60, I'm not sure if they have that or not. I DO know they have the discriminatory practice of “Age 30” for their flight attendants. If you turn 30, or can't fit the size small sarong you're outta there.
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Captain Drew,

Are you thinking about coming out of retirement??
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Are you thinking about coming out of retirement??
Only to “get outta the house” <g> . . if you know what I mean. Don’t need the bucks, as there are nice USN and FedEx checks automatically deposited in the Credit Union on the 1st of the month -and the first SS check starts coming after next month . .almost have a “tax problem” <G> . . all the rental properties are “free and clear” and the only mortgage is on the homestead, as that is the best tax write-off. But, a 777 would be nice <G> . . and maybe layovers in SYD? Hey an old fighter pilot can dream, eh?
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Only to “get outta the house” <g> . . if you know what I mean. Don’t need the bucks, as there are nice USN and FedEx checks automatically deposited in the Credit Union on the 1st of the month -and the first SS check starts coming after next month . .almost have a “tax problem” <G> . . all the rental properties are “free and clear” and the only mortgage is on the homestead, as that is the best tax write-off. But, a 777 would be nice <G> . . and maybe layovers in SYD? Hey an old fighter pilot can dream, eh?
I think if you're going to stoop and fly passengers that Singapore isn't a bad place to go. That's the way the airline flying experience was supposed to be. It will be like flying for Pan Am in the 70's.
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SIA Cargo is also hiring on the 744F. Check out http://www.siacargo.com/First%20Offi...0positions.pdf.

Neither the 777 or the 744 will take over 60.
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